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Maico / Re: Pre-65,,,Eligible MAICO s

« on: January 24, 2014, 07:19:11 PM »

I've found a picture of a Maico-Metisse on an french webside. It seem to be a wider frame ?!

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Maico / Re: Pre-65,,,Eligible MAICO s

« on: January 24, 2014, 07:12:31 PM »

It happened quickly.
I started vomitting large amoints of blood.
By the time they got me to hospital I was also passing large amounts of blood. I stopped drinking weeks back and have been taking asprin on an empty stomach every morning to stop withdrswal head aches but my gut is alrrady stuffed from pain killers and anti inflatories.  Nill by moth now. I will be fine but. I am fit now, just a ruptured ulcer or something.
Thanks for the good wishes with Kel.

Ps; lucky I am not a johoba

  sounds not good...
I hope you get well soon, because I've good news for you 

Cheers
Marcus

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Maico / Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.

« on: January 24, 2014, 03:35:55 AM »

Do you know about the "crankshaft conversion" (400'er rod in 250'er crank) in this forum?!



Or the crank sealing "problem" ?! Please let me know, because this are the 2 requirements for tuning and reliability 

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Maico / Re: Maico KR250

« on: January 24, 2014, 02:47:12 AM »

Hey, did you see that on ebay USA (2012 i think) ? :






The first of them i've ever seen 

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Maico / Re: Pre-65,,,Eligible MAICO s

« on: January 24, 2014, 02:43:17 AM »

Danke Marcus, my plan is to finish and race a 1964 X3 MC360.
To finish it, I need a pair of these alloy lower sliders

Ok, maybe i can get sliders for you.
Maico has taken the sliders of their scooter (Maicoletta) and bored them up from 35 to 36mm.



For the rest you can take the squarebarrel fork. Just have to shorten the dumper rods and make a backingplate...
Or you take a fork with 35mm tubes (KX80 maybe or else) ..

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Maico / Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.

« on: January 24, 2014, 01:59:41 AM »

Here a 175ccm with this conversion:

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Maico / Re: 1974 Die cast 400 top end?

« on: January 23, 2014, 11:37:41 PM »

Man the Klitland bike looks like a stocker with a aluminum tank and a tall seat, shocks look to be stock girling's, drilled steel chain guide. Yes I bet it did have a 250 gearbox.....which is a 400 or 440 oh and 501. (I've had 3 501's two SB type S transmission's and one Radial type U) I would say they were talking about a small clutch and cover from a 250. Back to the 501 for a second, I had my 1973-74 501 with a U trans at a race years ago. I was racing my 440 at the time which I crashed and bent up.....so I raced the 501. That was the worst bike maico ever made! Fun to look at sucked to ride. OK back to the 400 top end. I can't remember where I got it. I think I pulled the crank out of it and ran it in Brad's bike (090) I think it had some crank stuffers in it. I have one more of the die cast heads that was on a 400GP, it doesn't have the small fin's like this head has.   

Sorry, but i don't think it's die-cast!
Maico was a small manufacturer with no money to loose and if they had a form for die-cast they would have made all heads in the same way !  I think i have one too, just have to look..... It was on my 75'er  GS400 Modell.
In my opinion they look like a modification of the first 400'er radial heads from 1972:



Perhaps Maico has tried an other supplier  ??

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Maico / Re: Square barrell gearbox parts wanted

« on: January 23, 2014, 10:36:17 AM »

I think i have the parts.
But what means 1'st and 2'nd gear on the mainshaft ?! The first gear is part of the mainshaft or

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Maico / Re: Maico 501 3 speed (truth or fiction) => truth !!

« on: January 23, 2014, 10:30:32 AM »

Cool article, makes sense a friend in California told me he raced a pre production 3 speed 501 sometime in 1969.

Could be... in winter 1968 Maico tested an 480ccm Prototype in Laubus-Eschbach....

In 1998 or so, i found one and a half 3-Speed transmission in a Maico-Dealer's stock in Leverkusen/Germany and bought ist.
It fits in the normal 4-speed case with the 4-speed shiftingplate. The gearwheels were much thicker than on the 4 speed trans and the shifting forks were also very rigid  I gave it later to a friend of mine who has a 501 .... Maybe i'll take some pictures of the parts when i'll see him again, unfortunately he is living 450 Km from me 

In the same dealers stock i also found the 5-speed prototype transmission, that fits in a modified 4-speed case !
The Dealer has bought the whole Maico parts of the former Maico-Builder "Merkle". So there were much old NOS parts from the former Maico-Factory included 
Unfortunately some 5-speed parts were missing/demaged and the case was lost....  But i still have it 

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Maico / Re: MAICO Pre-60 Alloy Oval Barrel Blizzard Project.

« on: January 23, 2014, 08:41:25 AM »

   Another expensive ebay purchase for this project,,,,,,,Uuuumm
Yeap just as I suspected


The whole world has Its share of impossible to educate D#*B C^%TS
It is just that some countries call them by different names
            DUMM K*^TS maybe.

Cut the first 4 or 5 fins away and put a selfmade alloy barrel on it like this:



That will improve the cooling too 

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Maico / Re: Pre-65,,,Eligible MAICO s

« on: January 23, 2014, 07:29:23 AM »

Excellent, danke Marcus.

What is the outside diameter of the alloy fork sliders at this point?

The diameter is 42mm. What are your plans, are you searching for one ??

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Maico / Re: Pre-65,,,Eligible MAICO s

« on: January 23, 2014, 03:29:50 AM »

This Maico Metisse looks to be based on a Petite Metisse frame and is pretty much what I'm building only mine will be a 350.                 
                                                           

Soo, you asked for mor pictures of this beauty ?!
Here they are. The first on I shot with my phone some years ago, thats why the quality is not very good ...
Nevertheless I hope this wil help!





To get some more pics, is impossible in the Moment, because the bike hangs on a wall in a private museum 

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Introductions / Re: Hello from Maico-Land (Germany)

« on: January 23, 2014, 03:08:58 AM »

Maico Mac your fine knowledge of the marque is probably being missed by other interested VMXers on this thread, could you please continue or start a new one in the Maico thread section? Cheers mate Tim754

Ok  , i'll start some "Maico" threads

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Introductions / Re: Hello from Maico-Land (Germany)

« on: January 22, 2014, 11:19:45 PM »

I too love "selfmade" frames. Do WeBeHa frames come up for sale very often? I'd be very interested in owning one.

I have only seen 3 WaBeHa frames in my Live: 1x MotoCross changed into GS (Maico), 1x Montesa and mine!
Here you can see Otto Walz in the Austrian GP 1962, riding for Maico in the 500ccm class ! This Maico has a Ceriani fork and a frame build by Walz/Betzelbacher as "Worksrider" .







And that's the Bike they build in 1964, a real 500ccm 2 stroke gun, based on a PUCH engine    !


And this is my frame, but for Maico engine, so i think it's from 1963 before Walz and friends breake mith Maico..

Do you have any pictures of the yellow Maico Metisse that you could post here? I'm very interested in some aspects of what he's done, even though I'm using a slightly different Metisse frame.

Yes, i will post them later 

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Introductions / Re: Hello from Maico-Land (Germany)

« on: January 22, 2014, 03:52:27 AM »

........ Also, what exactly is a WaBeHa.....is it an aftermarket frame made by Fritz Betzelbacher? I've heard of them but never seen one. If it is I want one .

Yes, WaBeHa means Walz, Betzelbacher und Hauger. They have worked and raced for Maico until 1962/63 and have always used approved or selfmade frames.
After they created a 360ccm engine based on the 250ccm oval barrel, with a very light double tube frame, Otto Maisch was interested in their ideas for the Maico production ! But the department which makes the constructions was not amused about that and decided to make their own creation, the X3 was born  .
So the three specialists decided to cancel the work for Maico and make their own business with dirt bikes, using engines from Montesa ........ to be continued