78 Evo & Pre 85 Titles

[magoo]

None I'm led to believe

[Rossvickicampbell]

Ajay - the pre 75 club currently here is determined to remain pre75 and as such I can't see MA allowing a separate Nationals as was held here last time?

Various threads throughout the site have discussed the "apparent" need of splitting something that some see as becoming "cluttered" and then maybe WA will get just pre 75 again if it ever happens??

Just a thought?

[AjayVMX]

While I understand that the strength of feeling within the WA pre 75 club towards later bikes is extremely strong, I also think they realise that a marriage of convenience with a WA pre 85 club might make Nationals in WA a possibility in the future. 

Surely that could be a win/win for VMX as a whole in the West in 2011? 

[Nathan S]

Ajay - the pre 75 club currently here is determined to remain pre75 and as such I can't see MA allowing a separate Nationals as was held here last time?

Isn't that the whole point of this thread - to discuss the possibility of seperating the Nationals into two events.

I still think that pre-78 needs to be grouped in with the earlier era stuff, but I guess that doesn't fit with the WA philosophy.

[ba-02-xr]

I think spliting them is a good idea. Thats my vote.

[magoo]

Put your ideas into writing to your local State Controlling Body for them to implement. It's got to be the only way for the future I reckon.

[shoey]

It would an interesting exercise to run the numbers in relation to the entries received for Connondale.

Seperate the numbers into say:

 pre-78 including all classes before .  ie pre-75 etc

 Evo & pre 85

Then you could make some allowances or projections for the additional numbers if the era's were seperated.

Then you would quickly be able to assertain if would be financially viable to run seperate national events .

If the numbers dont run then its highly unlikely that any club will finance it.

So rather than speculating , how about someboby actually having a look at the available information and running the numbers to see if its actually viable.

A good club secretary could do this rather quickly.

[Tossa]

While I understand that the strength of feeling within the WA pre 75 club towards later bikes is extremely strong, I also think they realise that a marriage of convenience with a WA pre 85 club might make Nationals in WA a possibility in the future. 

Surely that could be a win/win for VMX as a whole in the West in 2011? 

I certain Rossco has been waiting for me to jump in.  There is a serious push to start a pre85 club in WA (pre85MXWA), had a ride day last month, some 24 riders and 50 bikes, great day had
http://ozvmx.com/community/index.php?topic=8541.0

It's hoped to be able to work with the VMXWA club and maybe another club (possibly Manjimup) to secure the whole shooting match for WA at some time.

VMXWA (Pre 75) is very strong and runs excellent meeting.  But cannot acommodate pre85's on it's course due to the degradation to the soil it would cause, so a compromise would need to be found, and hopefully having two clubs covering the whole spectrum and the support of some great tracks, i've already mentioned manjimup, but should not forget the scenic track of Collie, we can get our act together

[VMX247]

I agree with AJax that  its a win/win situation if we stay together for Nationals events, at least till the time that the pre75 start to decline and become garage queens like the pre65.
more moving and shaking can be done together. 

If MA thinks/believes/knows we are of split opinions they will just make the decision for us in the long run,no matter how many submissions are sent in..
cheers
oh and there is no dirt a bobcat,d10 or grader can't change 

[Rossvickicampbell]

Shoey - just a small one - until numbers are sufficient for separate events (if it ever gets that high) simply splitting a 3 day meeting into both pre and post whatever (78???) is an option to be considered - all classes at one meet and tracks can be set up to cater for both sets of bikes and bodies. Say pre 78 until Sat lunch and then pre 85 after.  I would have a go at both (as long as you promised not to laugh!!).

cheers

[Tossa]

I would have a go at both (as long as you promised not to laugh!!).

cheers

I'll laugh because I'd get to see the rear end of you all day!!  And that's not a pretty sight!!

[NSR]

No matter what your race format is, there are too many classes.
IMO the race format should be no more than 2 days.
I like having all the bike classes at one event but the age classes would have to go.
Cheers
Noel   

[VMX247]

Events/nationals will be a testing time with say 2,3 or 4 club committees working together to make it all happen.Communication channels will be working over time.
A subcommittee of sorts may need to be in force. 
cheers

[Brian Watson]

I can't agree with canning the age group racing...most of the pre 75 guys (the only group that age groups apply to) are getting on a bit and it is good to be able to race against guys your own age as well....it is not pleasant to be smoked by some 30 year old who has no real interest in VMX...

[AjayVMX]

Ah, the age group debate...  it was only a matter of time I guess 






BTW I'm getting hungry... anyone got some popcorn?