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tgp074

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3 lap races
« on: July 05, 2009, 12:01:25 pm »
Please excuse me if there is already a thread on this topic...Although I am really looking forward to the vintage nats at Conondale, I must say that it is disapointing to see a National Meeting run with 3 lap races... Is this due to time constraints? An average lap of Conondale would be approx 2 min, so its 6 min races!! If you get an average start you finished. Also you would want to have a lot of bikes to get some decent track time over the 3 days.
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 12:21:22 pm »
Yeah i agree, 3 laps is a joke. And why have 1 moto a day for each class?
It would make much more sense to have all pre '70, pre '75 etc on the friday when the track is in good condition and evo, pre '85 on saturday, sunday. People with only 1 bike will sit around for 1 moto a day for 3 days!
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 12:42:44 pm »
3 laps isn't so bad, just means it's a sprint race so don't hold back ;)
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 01:02:13 pm »
I haven't made any mention of the track lay out, nor did I specify pre 85?  Maybe the pre 78, evo and pre 85 races should be longer races, and the pre 75 and older 3 laps only. If the event has National championship status it needs cater for EVERY class appropiately.
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 01:32:46 pm »
I believe 3 laps is good when the track is 2.9kmn long   :P oops 2.5km..
If you only get one moto a day then this is a great opportunity to catch up with other VMX enthusiasts  8)
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2009, 01:59:12 pm »
Wasp

Do you know that reason,I would be keen to know along with others what it is?

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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 02:05:39 pm »
I also believe that some clubs are now running 10 minutes and one lap (not nationals & not vmx)...
whats happening in this regard over east  ????
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 02:10:10 pm »
3 laps is at most a 6 min race.. that's not motocross. If you get a bad start 3 laps is not long enough.
Maybe pre 70 and pre 75 should be 3 laps and the newer era's 4 or 5 laps.
Why compare 5 laps to modern bike racing, they have 20 and 30 min moto's, most vintage races are more than 3 laps.
Motocross has always been a combination of skill and fitness.. don't get confused with dirt track.
This is an Aussie title with a $150+ entry fee, not just another club day.
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 02:35:39 pm »
I'm an old bloke on an old bike and i reckon 3 laps is too short. Several of my friends are not entering because they don't agree with the 3 lap format so you could lose entries either way.. too long or too short.
I'm not talking 45 min moto's but even 10min would be ok.
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2009, 02:41:11 pm »
Apart from the length of the races the craziest thing is each class having 1 race each day,whats going on with that?any one got any idea
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2009, 02:44:53 pm »
Yeah Gary that's put a few people off. Even if you have 2 bikes that's 6 laps a day for 3 days!
That makes no sense at all.
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2009, 02:51:00 pm »
i guess its too late now but with things like this why dont the organising committee contact each club and through this forum to see what the RIDERS actually want or pass a survey around at the event for things that can be changed next year, instead of just pulling the number of laps out of the sky and picking the number 3, yes i know there is time logistics but surely there can be compromises eitherway to keep the riders happy. If you dont keep the riders happy they wont come again next year, especially if they have far to travel, for only 3 lap races. What do people want? maybe they do want 3 laps or is there an overwhelming amount who want longer races? riding a MX bike isnt ment to be easy, so some pre event training might be required to have the endurance to last more than 3 laps if you want to do well  ;)
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2009, 02:57:34 pm »
I think time is very important with oops 21 class's and fitting them into one weekend as some have to work on Monday... :)
Its just the way it is, so everyone gets a go.. 8)
the entry cost has to be looked at also-I dought the clubs will make much of a cut with all the bits and pieces that go with an event of this magnitude....
You wouldn't believe how much dunny paper is used-I think some people eat it.
also Hot Chips are a good money maker  ;)   ;D
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2009, 03:04:25 pm »
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If you dont keep the riders happy they wont come again next year
I hope the Organiser's come next year.
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Re: 3 lap races
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 03:15:00 pm »
You'll be back Noel :)
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