What is your definition of VINTAGE?

[firko]

Brian, the pre 65 class is alive and well on your side of the island but over here where there are more choices for your racing buck, the punters are taking an easier route to their racing. Pre 65 is too hard for them but I reckon if the class was made to be more accessible we'd get far more starters. The response we've had to Mainlines Budget Bikes post alone is encouraging when you show potential racers that there are alternatives to the 12k bikes.

I share your view on the twin pipe 360. I rode Bob Vourmards in practice at Condo a few years ago and I was surprised just how damn quick it was. However, we can't knock back a bike just because it won a world title. A lot of other brands won world titles and we don't discriminate against them. I think the Twin port CZ is a non issue anyway as you yourself said  "...if you could find one to race"..which is so true. If I had one I doubt I'd race it for fear of breaking some unobtainable gizmo.

[maicomc490t]

How about a good run down on exactly how many pre 65 bikes front the grid at any given meeting.

I am sure that many reading these posts would find the figures interesting - one way or the other.

While we are here - pre 70 numbers would be interesting too !

Michael - you seem to know a lot about racing in pre 65 so tell us from you point of view how many guys you rack up with at any given meeting (and not just the Nats which while having slightly more prestigious plastic on offer it's doesn't represent what happens "On any Sunday"

In anticipation pre 65 guys

Dave Mac 

[Rosco400]

I only know of one Pre 65 turning up for VMX in NSW although Crawford river classic had around 10 pre 70 which is a fair increase for VMX, the DT nationals results 2008 were pretty poor turnout, couldnt run championship classes for pre 60, pre 65 or pre 68 and had to combine the pre 70 250 in with pre 70 opens

   2008 AUST. CLASSIC D/TCHAMPIONSHIPS                  
   Pre 1960 All Powers                  
No   Competitor   Rd.1   Rd.2   Rd.3   Rd.4   Rd. 5   Total
58   Brian Kelleher   20   20   20   22   22   104
23   Graham Roberts   25   25   25   dns   25   100
211   David Tanner   22   22   22   25      91
                     
                     
   Pre 1965 All Powers                  
92   Darrell Elliott   25   25   25   25   25   125
18   Mark Austin   22   20   20   20   18   100
857   David Harrison   20   18   18   18   20   94
23   Graham Roberts      22   22   22   22   88
69   Mick Jones      16            16
                     0
   Pre 1968 4 Stroke                  
92   Darrell Elliott   25   25   25   25   25   125
39   Kevin Crossey   22   22   22   20   20   106
23   Graham Roberts   20   dnf      22   22   64
                     0
                     0
   Pre 1970 All Powers Championship                  
52   Peter Lee   25   25   25   25   25   125
4   Matthew Perlowski   22   22   22   20   20   106
400   Ross Merrick   20   18   18   18   18   92
92   Darrell Elliott      20   20   22   22   84
58   Brian Kelleher   18   15   16   15   15   79
173   Neville Shepheard   16   13   13   14   16   72
2   Noel Lewis   15   14   14   13   14   70
245   Gerard Harrison   14   16   15   16   dns   61
175   Luke Shepheard   13   11   11   11   13   59
857   David Harrison   11   12   12   12   12   59
39   Kevin Crossey   12   10   10   10   11   53
                     

[VMX247]

Maybe its time for a group of people to get off there butts and create a pre 65 &/or pre 68 VMX club.

Calling it
Vintage 1
Vintage 2 loses the pre name/identity big time. 
I believe people would associate it as RR.
cheers

[albrid-3]

the classic scramble club victoria was to be a pre 70 club, but changed our mines. but their are plenty of pre65, 60 and pre70 out their, just need to get these people to roll them out of there sheds to a meeting, that is the hard part. I think that a lot of x-riders or riders that like these bikes just don`t want to race them anymore, if it was a free ride every month that may be the answer.

[VMX247]

Let look at starting right here on this forum-
Who on this forum has a pre 65 or pre 68 and doesn't ride it on a club day or any day
Ask your non forum mates why they don't ??
Its no use bashing around here on this forum,when the people who own them are not even on this forum. 
Flogging a dead horse or not???
I believe Classic Dirt is one of the main places to start PR work to create the pre 65 and Pre 68 club/identity..You can only but try 
What is your definition of VINTAGE looks like its pre68 & pre 65 so the topic leads
cheers

[albrid-3]

I have just sold my Husqvarna 67 which is eligible for pre 65 to South Australia, that will be used, l will be building another to run next year. l started racing in 1972 , but l do prefar pre 68 to 1960 bikes, it is the true vintage era. I have owned 9 pre 65 bikes, sold them on to help build up the numbers and where are they now, sleeping in sheds.

[albrid-3]

That is great news walter, it is over due, you guy`s are not fare from Harrow, l heard that the original Keith race track was starting up. I would like to see a lot more  spark  that could come back into vintage meetings. Sick of trophies, more prices like gloves tyres, oil to give away, l did that when l ran race meetings, got the bike shops, other different business to donate, the rider and kids where very happy.

[magoo]

To me, Vintage is what you want it to be

[albrid-3]

That is true words.

[albrid-3]

OLDYZMAN, 30 YEARS PLUS, WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[Marc.com]

definition of vintage....my ex 

[Rosco400]

I'm with Rosco 30 years plus....
OLDYZMAN

OLDYZMAN, 30 YEARS PLUS, WHAT DO YOU MEAN

30 years from the end of the year has always been known as the historical year for vintage, it is the same rule for cars & road bikes 

Classics have aways been 25 years,

They are both rules that have been in force since Fred Flintstone was a boy.

[VMX247]

I have  some , but do not have the time to use them. that does not mean I am not interested in the class.

Wasp,Maybe enter it in a class for the Nats 

I have just sold my Husqvarna 67 which is eligible for pre 65 to South Australia, that will be used, l will be building another to run next year. l started racing in 1972 , but l do prefar pre 68 to 1960 bikes, it is the true vintage era. I have owned 9 pre 65 bikes, sold them on to help build up the numbers and where are they now, sleeping in sheds.

Stop selling them and rent them     

cheers

[colmoody]

Hey Luke, thats a great question that has obviously stirred up a bit of interest. What is your definition of Vintage.