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Offline caps 999

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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2009, 06:54:11 pm »
heres the yz100 i did a wile ago i spent around 2k on parts im a mechanic so labour i did




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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2009, 10:14:16 pm »
Beautiful bike, Ted. What's that saying about 'the quality will be remembered long after the price is forgotten'?

I just spent $445 on stainless steel spokes. plus close to $700 having my hubs and brakes fully refurbished. Is this a normal cost as I am new to the scene and this really freaked me out somewhat.

Price for spokes seems a bit high, but definitely in the ball-park.
Price for the hubs seems very high, but depends on what was done to them, exactly.

Professional painting is very expensive - if you can dodge that (DIY, mate's rates, or accepting a lesser finish) you can save a stack of money.

Personally, I've seen lots of people cost themselves a lot of extra money by commiting to fixing the parts that came from the bike, rather than sourcing replacment bits. For example, you'd never spend $700 on fixing a pair of Yamaha hubs, because they're worth very little - it wouldn't take much time or money to find a pair of servicable hubs for <<$100.

Another trap is to equate the price you paid with the quality, rather than judging things on their merits. If your project bike cost $500, and you're offered a parts bike for $1000, don't dismiss it simply because its more expensive than the original. Look at them both with an open mind, work out the value of the parts it will provide and then make the decision.

It also gets easier as you go along - you make contacts, you learn who to trust, you learn what's 'used but servicable', you build a stock-pile of parts and people feel pity for you. I don't think that any of my bikes have cost me over $2500 yet, most being well under.
But then again, I have access to a pretty good machine shop, and none of my bikes are a patch on either of the YZ465s pictured...

My Cappra project has a $4500 budget all up - we'll see how close I am when (if?) it is finished.

« Last Edit: May 29, 2009, 10:17:48 pm by Nathan S »
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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2009, 11:37:46 pm »




Frame, swingarm & triples                            $100
Powercoating                                            $250
Spray paint                                                $50
Zincing                                                      $30
Footpegs & springs                                      $65
swingarm bushes and chain rollers(guides)       $35
Seat foam (includes postage)                      $100
Seat cover and fitting                                  $65
Tank                                                       $100
Tank straps                                               $40
Tank painting and graphics                          $150
Handlebars                                               $140
Grips                                                         $20
Levers                                                       $20
Cables brake & clutch                                   $80
Kill switch                                                   $10
Forks                                                        $200
Fork & engine oil                                           $35
Rear shock & (rebuilt)                                   $100
Front wheel                                                $100
Rear wheel                                                 $100
Spockets & chain                                        $130
Tyres, tubes & rim tape                               $200
Wheel bearings & oil seals                              $50
Front & rear mudguards                                 $60
Sidecovers                                                $100
Chain tensioner & adjusters                            $10
Aluminium Bash plate                                      $5
Aluinium Brake pedal & torque arm                   $10
Airbox & filters                                             $70
Carb                                                          $50
Exhaust pipe                                               $50
Coil                                                           $80
CDI                                                           $30
Rod kit                                                     $200
Piston kit                                                  $100
Engine bearings(all), oil seals(all) & o-rings     $200
Engine                                                     $250
Nuts, bolts & fittings                                    $70
Machinning work                                        $145

Total                                                     $3300






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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2009, 12:13:19 pm »
Yeah "nathan s", I sent off my hubs components  (bultaco frontera) to be refurbished,..brake drums relined ,new brake ,shoes and a few other fiddly things that had to be done to get them ship shape.,  I guess what was costly was the time it took to polish everything up .I,m not complaining about the workmanship as they have come back looking like new. But it was a bit more than was expected. ..I also wanted to get some chroming done on other parts but the price of chroming now is going through the roof due to pollution laws. And a lot of Chrome shops are closing up for that reason....  I have spent a lot of time in Indonesia over the years and I know of a chroming shop in Bali not far from Kuta ,so when I head over in october I will be taking a load of bike parts with me to be chromed. I was in Java last xmas and could have got my rims gold anodised for a song..there,s alwys next time.

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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2009, 10:19:24 pm »
Not that this is anything like the same league as the other bikes in this thread, but probably worth the exercise while we're on the topic.

Donor bike: $200 (part of a package deal), Snowy76.
Non-reed top end: $0, swap with FactHunt (where is Kurt?).
New piston: $50, Ebay.
Rebore: $90, local engine reconditioner.
Engine porting: $0, me (and lots of time on the phone to Lozza...).
IT250 electronic ignition: $100 (? - it was ages ago), Mad Max.
Pipe: $30 in bends, local muffler shop.
Plug cap, plug, fuel hose, etc: $20, local bike shop.
30mm RT1 carby: $10, part of a big pile of stuff I bought off Tim754 years ago.
Air-filter: $20, local car-parts shop.
New handlebars: $90, local bike shop.
New grips: $15, local bike shop.
New lever blades: $20, local bike shop.
Paints: $50, local hardware store.
Fuel tank: $5, part of a big pile of stuff I bought off Tim754 years ago.
Tank strap: $10, local saddler + stuff laying around.
Footpegs: $46, pit-bike shop.
Decent forks : $80, local wrecker.
New fork seals: $30, local bike shop.
Front rim: $0, came on a $200 YZ125E.
Front spokes: $35, Epay.
Front tyre: $20, local gun rider.
Rear rim: $0, my shed.
Rear tyre: $0, a favour from MBoddy.
Rear guard: $0, Adam S.
Front guard: $0, my shed.
Front number plate: $0, my shed.
Side number plates: $0, Adam S.
Numbers and back-grounds: $20, local sign-writer (materials only).
Oils etc: $50, local bike shop.

Call it $1000 and you'd be on the money.

I think that covers everything that I've spent money on, or would normally have expected to spent money on. Everything that I haven't mentioned either came on the bike (seat, shocks etc) or came out of my pile of parts that "might come in handy one day" (cables, chain, kill-switch, etc)...
My work also sponsored some bits and pieces (legitimately - the big boss insisted on a clean up, so a lot of stuff was saved from the bin), and use of tools like the bead blaster and the welder.

In hindsight, it was a good bike to start with - the botton end and gearbox are sweet and haven't needed to be touched, the frame is clean and straight, etc.

Here it is, ready to be loaded onto the ute to go to CD6 and then the Nationals.



And here's a photo that I think is cool but can't think of a better place to put...






« Last Edit: May 31, 2009, 10:24:43 pm by Nathan S »
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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2009, 11:56:13 pm »
That last pic Nathan - priceless.

I've got a pic of my boy when he was like that crawling through the frame of a GT750 Duke and bikes have been in his blood since then, All being well we'll see him at HEAVEN meets in the not too distant future! They have to be the best 'before and after' photos parents can have especially when bikes are in the family !

You should post a before of that terrible VR mate !!!

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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2009, 12:47:36 pm »
Hey, that plastic tank holding clip is non period - I'm protesting.

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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2009, 01:14:38 pm »
Looks like Jnr Senior`s got all his toy`s out.
Couple of CR`s

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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2009, 03:36:39 pm »

This is a great thread!  It's handy to know what some items cost, and also what some of the typical items are that people replace.  Love it.  I'd post my KX125 but it's now lost it's spark!  So it doesn't qualify yet.

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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2009, 06:05:21 am »
Yep it all depends on what you can or can't do yourself

I had 2 off these Red devils and did them as a side by side project not to concourse but to what I liked.

The cheap part of any resto is zinc plating, I had every nut, bolt spring, axle etc replated for both bikes for 70.00 bucks and makes the difference in looks.

I had the local paint shop do the red colour matched to the new guards I bought for 80 bucks and that is enough paint to do 4 bikes.

Time spent would be around 60 hours per bike.

Rims are the standard rims sanded and powdercoated including the hubs and re-plated spokes, each wheel owns me 30.00 bucks including new bearings and seals (have my own powder coating plant helps!) but if I was doing for someone I charge 30 bucks a hub (to bead blast and powder coat) and same for a rim.

Photo is from CD 5 and at this point in time the bike had done 2 seasons of racing

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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2009, 07:24:47 pm »
Ted at the end of the day it's only money (yours thank god)  and it looks like you have done a grouse job and we're all glad you did it.

Thinking about the money side of things for to long takes all the fun right out of it. For me anyway.


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Re: BEFORE and AFTER photos
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2009, 02:08:00 pm »




Absolute wreck when I got this - in fact there were couple of bikes in there and even some Yamaha parts.  I hadn't restored before so everything got down to the best I could (and outsourced a lot as well coz I also am not the best mechanic out there) - owed me (minus labour) around $6000.  Next resto was a 1982 RM250Z and I reckon the costs were half that once you work out what you can do and where to go ;D

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« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2009, 02:15:24 pm »
Very nice! 

They would have to be one of the toughest looking bikes of that era.
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