budget bikes?

[Bamford#69]

Hi ,
forget topping up your Super , the Government is going to steal the little bit your accountant and Lawyer leave you with, invest in something like this. 
These are the kind of bikes they have in Dirt Bike  heaven.
Sweet as.

[Marc.com]

Hi ,
forget topping up your Super , the Government is going to steal the little bit your accountant and Lawyer leave you with,

yeah what they did was tax you by stealth....you pay the same but get quite a bit less. Some people are addicted to borrowing large amounts and we are all about to support that. Still give it time.

[Bamford#69]

Hi
Mark before I forget , I can't find any info to support your suggestion that a Chantland , JoMo or Norman Hyde 750 kits were available before 1965.

[Bamford#69]

Hi
regarding budget bikes , everyone seems to think they cant afford to build or buy a Rickman (Cheney or CCM etc), its just a question of  priorities, if you really want too anyone can do it     it takes time to save, and a lot of time and effort to build, but like most things it was worth all the trouble ,
 
A little less time with my good buddies Johnny Jimmy and Jack helped me along , but dont get me wrong we are still good friends.

[firko]

Jeez your a stubborn old bugger Michael.....

An anology comes to mind....... Michael lives in a nice posh gated community (the pre 65 class) where he and his equally snobby neighbours enjoy playing golf with other members of the all white population(racing purely British Metisse, Cheney and other blue blood machines). All of a sudden one day a current affairs shock jock (Uncle Firko) goes on air (the OZVMX forum) and speaks of his plan to let mixed race people of a poor social background (Royal Enfield, Japanese and bikes made using parts from many different sources made on the cheap) into Michaels posh suburb (the pre 65 class). All hell breaks loose and Michael calls a meeting at the Golf club to find a way of preventing the riff raff (hot rod bikes and those evil black Indian Enfields)from entering his private community. Michael figured that the easiest way to keep his precious community pure and wholesome was to publicly belittle the shock jock and other pests (anybody threatening the exclusivity of his gated paradise ), criticise Firkos own mixed race suburb ("Firkoland") and niggle at everything Uncle Firko proposes on air (the forum) in regards his precious gated community. Unfortunately, Michaels all white snobs (purist bikes) are becoming scarcer and one day an Indian family (a Royal Enfield) moves into Michaels precious gated community causing a shocked Michael and his golf club friends (The old Snob MCC) go into panic meltdown "Our precious town is doomed now that 'one of those damn Indians' has moved in to our community" (A Royal Enfield had entered the pre 65 class) cried Michael to the ever dwindling group at the Golf club. While he had been busy defending the main gate of his little community a couple of Asian families had moved in (A CB72 and a YDS3 Yamaha) as well as several mixed race families (A Cotton Honda, A Sprite Maico and a loud Italian American Hindall Ducati. Worse still, one of those all white members of the community had an affair with the daughter of the Indian family and 9 months later a mixed race child was born (a Metisse Royal Enfield). "Our community is doomed" cried Michael (the pre 65 class is buggered) as he downed another gin and tonic at the Golf Club (downed a beer at the pub)

A year later: The doom and gloom that Michael had predicted never eventuated. The gate had been removed from the community and a mixed and interesting new population had moved in(the pre 65 class had opened up to a new and interesting lot of engine swap and hybrid machines) and rather than seeing the community turn to a slum, a new and interesting society grew and more and more citizens who'd previously never thought of entering the gated community found that it wasn't as snobby as they'd envisioned and found nothing but cameraderie and fun. Even Michael had adopted a poor crippled Indian kid and was helping him rebuild his life (he bought a wrecked Royal Enfield and was rebuilding it as a cheap racer.) Eventually the formerly snobby gated community had become a welcoming and open town and the envy of other towns.(a fun class to race).
Michael smiled and hugged Ravi his Indian boy (he smiled and Arrmor Alled his Royal Enfield) finally admitting that perhaps there had been something in Uncle Firkos theories on pre 65 multi culturalism.................................

I'm busy getting ready for CD6 as well as organising respite care for my old mum for when I'm away but if I find a spare half hour I'll try and dig out any information on the big bore kits. To give you a hint if you want to do it yourself..take your head out of those old Brit magazines for a minute and research American flat track where I'm sure you'll find that Chantland barrels were the standard to bring the 650 Triumph up to the AMA 750cc limit. Ditto for JoMo (Johnson Motors) who supplied similar kits to the drag racing and salt racing scene. I may be mistaken or he may have been spinning me some bullshit but I believe your old compadre Gavin Martini had Chantland barrels on his red Metisse back in the early 90s. Even if these kits weren't availavle until 2008 it doesn't matter one iota if the external appearance of the engine remains unchanged. What's inside your Triumph is nobodys business.

[Bamford#69]

Hi
definitely old, not sure about the stubborn part though, stopped reading  to start laughing,when you said  'elitist' ,I ride a mongrel bitch ,the literal translation and intention of the Rickman brothers name Metisse , I think it is French for female mixed blood/breeding, there can be  no snobbery in the ownership of a Metisse,
 

[VMX247]

$2000 cheap budget bike 
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Classic-AJS-Stormer-250cc-VMX_W0QQitemZ230346299729QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycles?hash=item35a1b59951&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A1|294%3A50

[firko]

It'll go for a lot more than 2k Alison. I know the bike and it's a pretty straight and fairly original old bike. AJS stormers are a decent thing for pre 70 if you can get over the crap electrics and Villiers weirdness. For those who like to do such dodgy stuff, my old mate Peter Reynolds fitted a CR Honda crank and Yamaha piston and was well underway to fitting a 6 speed YZ125 transmission to his Cotton road racer (same engine) before he retired and sold the bike. Doug Grant in the USA was a factory AJS rider back in the 70s and today is one of the guns in the legend and pro classes, regularly beating guys like Lackey and the late Jim Pomeroy. He uses late Yamaha ignition, a Yamaha piston and V force reeds and his bikes positively hoot, especially the 250. They have quality REH hubs and forks, are as light as all shit and are as pretty as a picture. It'll be interesting to see what it sells for.http://www.mccookracing.com/profiles/dougGrant.htm

[firko]

Here's forum member Jims (jimg1au) under construction pre 65er a BSA A65 frame with a methanol burning early Ariel (early 40s!) 500 engine. This old thing would slot into the pre 60 class as well.

[Marc.com]

hmmm... Roach of the month ..... ooops slipped out 

[jimg1au]

may be roach of the month but the motor has more australian racing history than most bikes on this forum.
the engine was built by art seionr a specialist ariel engine builder and then later rebuilt by a guy called sid willis.for those who are TOO young to know who sid willis was he built a velo from scratch yes he cast everything himself in his house in carlton sydney took it to the manx rases in england and beat the factory velo riders.he also used to build stan and steve baylis honda engines for bathurst
1 day it will ride again.i know all this to be true as the previous owner had it since the early 60s in a home made slider frame but powers to be wont allow sliders to race with vmx bikes in dirttrack.the owner being my brother and i remember him building it and the trips to sids house.
cheers

[VMX247]

How could I have forgotten our other neighbour        http://www.ozvmx.com/classies/list/2
Couple of British not so expensive on there. 
cheers

Firko:It has 1day to go and no bids,could be someones lucky day.Just spotted the reserve bit  still could be interesting    Hope to see it out on the tracks one day. 
now Three bids in three hours 

marcFX: Roach's can live through a Nuclear Holocaust 

[GD66]

Hi
Mark before I forget , I can't find any info to support your suggestion that a Chantland , JoMo or Norman Hyde 750 kits were available before 1965.

Hi, I think the Sonny Routt 750 kit may fall within the parameters.

And jimg1au, if people haven't heard of Sid Willis, then they should brush up on their knowledge of Australian motorcycle racing history, and see just what the little bugger did off his own bat, opening eyes on a national and world level. A little champion !

[matcho mick]

Sid cast up a set of teeth in aluminium,was ok till they & his mouth went black!!

[VMX247]

These them matchomick-Aussie ingenuity.Useful ideas 
 

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