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suzuki Takasago rims
« on: March 23, 2009, 09:54:21 pm »
can any one confirm what the finish on the Takasago rims is? im not sure if its silver anodizing or clear anodizing? im leaning towards clear but i would like to know for sure. im thinking of the period 79-82
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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2009, 10:23:15 pm »
When I was in at Anodisers last week we spoke about the same finish.....his conclusion is that they have been fashed dipped . Much the same fininsh as per Rm / Pe swing arms

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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2009, 11:17:09 pm »
yeah but silver or clear? i was looking at a 09 model KLR650 today and the Takasago rims on that have the same finish as the original PE/RM rims and we were thinking that they are clear annodized. ive compared a freshly stripped rim to  a non stripped one and it looks like it could be clear as you the finish is quite glossy and reflective. I was always going to get them done 'bright silver' but now im thinking that could be wrong and i should go with clear.

ive looked at the rims and swingarms and the swingarms dont seem as glossy/bright like the rims.

what exactly is 'flash dipped'?
« Last Edit: March 23, 2009, 11:20:44 pm by LWC3077 »
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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 06:54:13 am »
not dipped for as long ....

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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 08:55:17 am »
what effect does that have on the finish? silver or clear ???
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 05:58:47 pm »
Not a gloss finish nor a satin .... brings out the colour of product being plated
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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 06:14:58 pm »
Here you go

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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 06:44:23 pm »
well that looks exactly like my swingarm does and i requested 'bright silver annodizing' It doesnt look like the rims did originally though. I think they are 2 different finishes. You still havent clarified if 'flashed' is a clear or silver finish.

have you seen brand new Excel rims? That to me is the same finish on the old suzuki rims and i think its a CLEAR annodizing

I also have to get some TT500 DID rims done but they look totally different to the Takasagos. The DID's are more of a dull satin silver colour and not bright/shiny/glossy looking like the Takasagos.
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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 03:12:22 pm »
Anodising is an electroplating process, not dipping as such. the concept is plating a pure aluminium onto the base alloy, there is no "clear" anodising but a natural aluminium appearance, colouring is achieved as the part is dipped into dye (colour) of the customers choice (the depth and intensity of the colour varies depending on how long the part is left in the dye) the part is then sealed with a commercial water based sealer although this is not entirely necessary. The principal of anodising is a protective coating ie; Pure Aluminium has a low structural strength, but it does however have a high corrosion resistance. The alloy is protected by galvanic action, as the coating is anodic to the alloy. The Aluminium alloy composition increases strength by bonding Aluminium with the alloying agents in the atomic lattice, enhancing slip resistance within the structure. Pure Aluminium has is often alloyed with other elements to increase its strength and hardness.Aluminium alloy is particularly susceptible to inter-granular, general/pitting, exfoliation and stress corrosion. This is due to electrochemical differences that exist between the precipitates (inter-metallic compounds) and the bulk alloy, creating anodic and cathodic areas. Once an electrolyte, such as water, comes into contact with the alloy, the corrosion process will begin. In short a clear coat of lacquer over a natural anodised finish will appear the same as OEM finish ;)
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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2009, 02:24:31 am »
well that looks exactly like my swingarm does and i requested 'bright silver annodizing' It doesnt look like the rims did originally though. I think they are 2 different finishes. You still havent clarified if 'flashed' is a clear or silver finish.

have you seen brand new Excel rims? That to me is the same finish on the old suzuki rims and i think its a CLEAR annodizing

I also have to get some TT500 DID rims done but they look totally different to the Takasagos. The DID's are more of a dull satin silver colour and not bright/shiny/glossy looking like the Takasagos.

Interesting thread. I have often wondered the same. Excell are takasago aren't they so it most likely will still be the same finish as years ago compared to say DID rims.
I dont think the swing arm and rims are done the same way. The swing arm looks as though it has some kind of silver coating without a glossy finish where as the rims look like they are polished  and then clear laquered. laquered or annodized ? I dont know but I would defo say the two items are processed differently.
Just looking at my bike (81 RM) right now and the finishes are defo different colours. The swing arm is obviously a shade of silver coating but the rims just look laquered.


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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2009, 01:01:27 pm »
ok so your thinking the rims are clear annodized, which is what im leaning towards doing. yes Excell is Takasago. Excell is just the model name of the rims which are their top line rims.
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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2009, 05:13:00 pm »
The people I talk to are the ones that plate Excell rims and do my work

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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2009, 05:39:19 pm »
are Excell rims made in austalia now and not japan? if thats the case i never knew that. what did those people who do the Excell rims say that the clear or silver ones are done in? clear or silver annodizing? if i can get the general consensus that they are a gloss clear finish then thats what i will do.

Rocket frog, you seem to know a bit about this. Are you an anodiser? what do you suggest i request the annodizers to do? you say there is no such thing as clear annodizing?

clear paint or laquer is out of the question, i require the original finish i dont believe the original finish is clear paint as it doenst come off  with paint striper and had to be sent to the annodizers to strip.
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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2009, 05:55:40 pm »
Rims are stripped and re done  in OZ the meet the market flavour of the month  ;)
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Re: suzuki Takasago rims
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2009, 06:30:28 pm »
I have had a few takasago rims annodized after being stripped and polished and was fairly disappointed to see the consolodation joint turn up darker than the rest of the rim, in addition to that, one gut I spoke to wont annodise DID rims because they actually split where they are joined when they're being done.