Eligilibty scrutineer at the Nationals

[Ji Gantor]

Okay
Side view
Where is the 30mm taken from?
Centre of pivot to centre of counter shaft? or
Centre of pivot to closest point of sprocket?

Ji

[Brian Watson]

Ji, a dramatisation obviously..but have never seen a chain run down the outside of the swingarm pivot... the original rule was all about NOT getting your delicate little fingers caught in the drive assembly...from a safety persepective..I would just cover it up anyway...

[Ji Gantor]

Hi yammiefan,
The finger protection was for the primary drive chain.
I drew those two options so we can explore what is what, after all I don't know everything about every bike. I certainly did not know that CZ rear sprockets were riveted on.

Is it actually required by applying the rule correctly. I would like to see what the man that will be making such a decision has to say (211kawasaki).

Ji

[Brian Watson]

With respect Ji...your own club event scruit people should have already advised you on a requirement...everyone has the same MOM's to go by...

[211kawasaki]

Guys

For me this has been a really positive thread, It will become the basis of some discussions and I only suggest that you all persue your state body for the outcomes that you the riders want. Around the end of May there will be recomendations with the states.

Im really happy to take any PMs in indervidual issues that may be of concern but can I suggest that you let the guys who may not be connected to this forum that there will be an insistance and adhearance to the letter of the GCR's.

I want to keep the slate clean and not have to dissapoint anyone on the day so build your bike to the GCRs dont try to make your bike fit the GCRs after its built.

If you would like me to start another thread on say how pre 78 got to the rule book or why something else happened I would be really happy to do that. I think if more out there knew how the system worked we would be able to work more closely as a group; better for everyone.

Dave T

[211kawasaki]

Nathan

just wanted to add that your absolutly correct and every time that the commission looks at a rule alteration request, bike elegibility issue, whatever, the underlining consideration is the belief that that decision must be in the best interest of the sport. Sometimes however when you do this that consideration takes out of the play someone on the fringe of the issue and thats never good either, sometimes its just unavoidable.

DT

 

[albrid-3]

I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS FOR YEARS, ITS ALL IN THE RULE BOOK, READ IT, IF THE MACHINE OR PARTS ARE NOT PRE 65, PRE70, PRE 75 OR PRE 78 YOU CAN`T NOT USE IT, BUT IF IT IS A FLOW ON MODEL AND PAINT HAS ONLY BEEN THE CHANGE THAT WILL BE OK. WE KNOW SOMETIME IS CRUEL BUT ( ITS BLACK AND WHITE ).
Note If your bike was a pre 75 and you had lay down rear units, you can change it back to original or leave it the way it is and if you do, the bike  must only be raced in pre78 classes only  that is the rule. simple
Note. Bultaco MK8, HOW ANY ARE THERE ON THE TRACK RACING AS MK 7. Techincally  MK8 ARE PRE 78 CLASS BIKES,

[Tim754]

Listen why dont all you just put/make a cover over the forken front sprocket ,stop being proper pains in the arse and well enough said. Hope all the dills that want to stuff around with this or that stupid part at the titles all get tossed out by the officials. Use your COMMON SENSE for shits sake! If YOU have second thoughts about a part of YOUR machine change it.  
Wish I could  be able to come and help you up there 211 . Because Tim754 (and others I too have since been emailed) are getting very sick of hearing whineing about problems that can easily be made kosher.

[Rossvickicampbell]

excuse me Mr TIM754 - common sense is actually not that common eh!

 

Rossco

[211kawasaki]

albrid
if in 1975 your 1974 bike was modified to lay forward the suspension it will have to be put back to where it was as standard to race in pre 75. The pre78 rules are quite clear that the class is for 75,76 and 77 model years so a modified 74 is still a modified 74 model. Its the model year thats the point here.


211

[albrid-3]

David 211,  That is right, early days, if a person was racing a pre75  for example, Montesa VR, AND THE UNITS WHERE LAY DOWN THEY WENT INTO A MODIFIED CLASS WHICH BECAME THE PRE 80 CLASS.
Rules are straight forward and clear,  for the new comer the rules are his guide.
Their is only one rule l would like to see included  and that is period clothing.

[colmoody]

Can't agree more with Tim 754's last post. I have never turned a page of the GCR's in 39yrs of on and off again racing in two or three disciples and have never had a problem at scrutineering anywhere at anytime. That's not to say that I wont have a problem at some time, but the last time and place I want or cause any aggrevation is with a scrutineer at 7.30am on a Sunday morning in some far away place or land. So I go out of my way to keep it simple for him/her/me. Trust me you'll sleep much better.

[bigtoe]

Hi dave,
I have a early 70's SL125 with a few modifcations eg; slightly extended swing arm, longer fork tubes but standard lower forks so still original travel, and custom straight out exhaust. All of these mods where common back then, I have amagazine article from early 70's showing a SL125with these mods, so am I elegible for pre 75 as I race at my club all the time with no problem.
thanks Greg

[Rosco86]

Intersting all the items here but I think a few have to take a step back and realise what some have been through in the past.Rules say you need folding footpegs.Interesting if you own an original 1963 Metisse. They used steel straps off the engine plates top and bottom and bolted together to form the footpeg on the outside of the cases, pure steel no folding action there, but that is what was ridden in 63. Taking the nickel off a 40 year old frame to weld in the available peg kit from new kits, re heat strengthen the frame in a baking oven at an airbase for hours and then renickeling and polishing to ride at the Nationals. Rules are rules so young fellas, forgive me if I dont have a lot of sympathy, suck it up and get on with it.
Nth Qld Rosco.

[mike1948]

Just had a look at the supp regs for the Nats, and it clarified for me a point from earlier in this thread - 18.4 - back numbers must be worn.
Where's the needle & thread, now.