Eligilibty scrutineer at the Nationals

[firko]

You'll need folding footpegs on that Metisse.

[Freakshow]

Once they fold just Zip tie a half piece of rubber tube down the peg at the pivot.   the peg can move up where the split is but the other side then folds up and pushes it back down if your foots off it, cheap easy and legal,  the way i read that is it only has to return, so even the TM OK as it falls back under its own weight, so its still self returning.

[Rossvickicampbell]

Freaky - I think the wording is specific - controlled by a spring?

[Freakshow]

Nope.  the word spring is NEVER mentioned, it only has to self return, its a matter for the scrutineer on the day to decide whether it returns fast enough by itself, not how or by what mechanism.

the folding clause is only there so if the bikes falls it doesnt dig in and flip, the returning part is just so you can find your footing if for some reason it has the need too after it has come up.   

Find me the wording that specifies the action or mechanism by which it returns.

Folding is a given , returning however is a matter for taste and good sence only.

[Bamford#69]

Hi
All you rule book Nazis out there, stop being so PEDANTIC.
L O L

[VMX247]

Hi
All you rule book Nazis out there, stop being so PEDANTIC.

  hey some of us live and breath pedantic 
cheers

[VMX247]

I didnt have to use my rule fool tool (4x2x 3")at CD 6 ,and I hope I dont have to use it at the nationals . 

ah ,so you are going to the Nationals then  -- taking the red Wasp ?
cheers

[Rossvickicampbell]

Freaky - read back through the posts!

12.8.5.1     a   well rounded  and no dangerous edges due to wear 
                                       b  Hinged or pivoted  Controlled by a return spring 

And I am not getting tied up in rule fools either (love that Wasp) so for the sake of a $3 spring why not ensure compliance instead of trying to interpret otherwise!

Bye

[Bamford#69]

Hi
Rules that apply to Classic Motorcross over ride the General ( All Disciplines) rules ; for example 
12.9.5, Homologation of Fuel;
"Unleaded fuel produced by an oil company for sale  in the  Australian general transport fuel market  through retail petrol pumps in at least 3 states does not have to be homologated ".
See rule 18.3.0.1
  in Classic  Motorcross,  Methanol is permitted .
or do only some of the rules count?,

[worms]

thanks Ross, as allways we need to look further, the ALL DISCIPLINES chapter means just that and overides all other chapters in the MOM's, just like the GCR's for a National competition, and yes if you only read half of it thats all you will get out of it!

i will add, that this is only a saftey issue and nothing to do with Eligibility in any way, so you cant protest someone because they dont have springs on their footpegs!

keep it simple guys and do as some are doing and ask for a formal request from MA or your state body to clarify rules and why they have been in place, like a current ? why when a bike is made with fixed footpegs does someone have to change the bikes integrity to meet the MOM's as they are worded.

cheers Trev

[Brian Watson]

Hello to Rosco and Worms..here it is direct from the MOM's..
12.1 APPLICATION OF CHAPTER
12.1.0.1 The Rules set out in this chapter are for
all disciplines.
12.1.0.2 Unless otherwise stated, the requirements
of any discipline-specific chapter override
the requirements of this chapter.

So ..in simple terms once again..the discipline specific chapters "over-ride" those in "all disciplines"...ssssoooo.....self returning ...no springs required.....Walter ..get me that peice of wood

[oz555ktm]

Why would you not want spring or sume type of spring to return the foot peg???

You go over a Jump lets say Drunks Hill and you do the big W with leg in
the Air and feet off the pegs and lets say that one of the pegs flip up ....
and when  go to land it you have no peg to put  your foot and it  hits the ground and you bust a Foot or your leg ...

What a great thing to do .

Just put spring on you pegs  and Stop turning people off the Nats

[firko]

If they flip up on their own they should also go down on their own  . if someone is paranoied about that , they fit a spring . If they are not , they dont fit a spring . Why make things complicated

Good one Walt.

[Rossvickicampbell]

loook.......................anything is possible - just ask murphy.................and sometimes I think he was an optimist!

[Rossvickicampbell]

actually - on a slightly different note.  Does anybody know how entries are going for the Nats - numbers?