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Offline Noel

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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2009, 11:09:07 am »
So far in my limited experience, if you turn up with a bike you think is right
to ride in a particular class they let you ride. (With the warning that if another competitor
protests and you lose the protest you will have to wear it).
So it would seem that in this day and age of VMX, you would be judged by the competitors
 before the wording of the rules. ;D
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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2009, 11:15:24 am »
thats dissapointing that a correct period watercooled kit for that bike is not allowed even if there is proof that is is a period accessory part (which i know there is). but i guess rules are rules. perhaps the rules can be changed to include the aftermarket watercooled kits from Fox, Lop, shinobi, Mugen etc? what about home made conversions too? they could be allowed. people certainly were doing there own watercooled conversions ( barrels as well, not just heads) back in the 70's to early 80's and ive even got old magazines that tell you how to do it.

but i guess the bottom line is EVO - NO water cooling so you cant argue with that.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2009, 11:34:13 am by LWC3077 »
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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2009, 11:25:14 am »
When you reply to eligibility questions you should always remember that someone may spend a great deal of time and money based on the opinions that you give.

Evo is not a period class. It is a technology class. And watercooling is a technology that is not allowed in Evo.

Your Mugen stuff is valuable and so you probably do not want to waste it on a bike for the back of the Pre-85 pack.
It should go onto a garage queen rather than a race bike.
The money you get from selling it can be put towards a competitive Evo race bike.   
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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2009, 11:36:48 am »
maybe there should be a class in the 77-80 region roughly, where you ARE allowed to use what was available at the time
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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2009, 11:38:21 am »


Your Mugen stuff is valuable and so you probably do not want to waste it on a bike for the back of the Pre-85 pack.
It should go onto a garage queen rather than a race bike.
The money you get from selling it can be put towards a competitive Evo race bike.   


No problems to accept the rules and I already have plenty of competitive Evo bikes, It will be a real neat thing to ride at Classic dirt and at my private track,
 It will still be competitive Pre 85 and even more fun if I can get it at the pointy end ;D,.................. one thing for certain,..........It aint never going to be for sale ;)
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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2009, 11:59:48 am »
"Evo is not a period class. It is a technology class.,"

nicely put

I haven't seen it worded that way before,
but they have removed the wording of" no age cut offs" and that generally stops pre 78 bikes and earlier riding in Evo
so it does make one think about the " period" from '78 on,

I wonder if this really was the intention at the time ??

On the other hand I also  feel a well set up Evo 125 bike is competitive in Pre 85 125 field  on the type of tracks that are prepared for Vintage events in Australia.

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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2009, 02:31:12 pm »
Any chance we can see some pics of this bike E74?
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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2009, 04:50:09 pm »
Any chance we can see some pics of this bike E74?

Soon Hoony ........ ;)   

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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2009, 06:47:35 pm »
No worries 74 look forward to it, i'm sure it will be a smick one as are all your bikes.
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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2009, 06:53:55 pm »
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Evo - AIR COOLED, drum brakes, no linkage.
If you cannot understand that then you should not debate eligibility. 
Lucky for me my high school education wasn't a total waste of time as i understand the eligibility.
Doesn't take it away from the fact that it is an evo bike with a period kit on it. It is also true that it should have to be sorted through the proper channels so it can be run 'legally' as this is a one in a million case so to speak. Obviously things like this just weren't considered when the rules were written.
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It should go onto a garage queen rather than a race bike.
The money you get from selling it can be put towards a competitive Evo race bike.   
Why should he have to park it in his shed? Or sell it? I would rather see one trick bit of gear on the line than a gaggle of converted dt's or the like.

You've done it now E74, i will hunt you down for that ride! Just make sure there isn't too much fuel in the tank when you hand it over. ;D

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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2009, 09:30:19 pm »
Still progressing with this baby but I doubt it will make it to CD6 , anyway these arrived today, what a master that Karl Landrus is, I think I'm gunna sleep with this tonight  :D


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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2009, 09:33:26 pm »
That arm looks bloody good.. roughly how many aussie dollars landed here?

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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2009, 09:47:14 pm »
Around $1450, not including the brake stay @ about $160

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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2009, 10:00:48 pm »
check out the welds :o looks good ;)
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Re: CR125RA Mugen Evo Legal?????
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2009, 10:03:02 pm »
Crikey! :o Not cheap but a nice piece of work. Definately worth it if you're building a watercooled 125 Mugen.