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Offline Graham

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oxygenated Race Fuel
« on: March 24, 2016, 06:03:04 am »
Have heard of some very good results with this stuff, a couple of different brands available. Anyone know if its ok to use in VMX
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2016, 08:03:01 am »
I'm pretty sure it is MA legal.
Even if it isnt, they won't have a way to test for it...

Be aware that you will need to reconfigure your motor to make it worthwhile.
Datsun L-series motors that were making 105kW on AvGas, went to 107kW by simply filling with Elf. With a rebuild and retune, they went 115kW on Elf.
With a rebuild and retune to suit 98 pump fuel, they made ~108kW.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2016, 08:41:22 am »
It's MA approved, but you need to re jet for the additional fuel required.
I use VP fuels.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2016, 12:22:02 pm »
Quote from: Nathan S on March 24, 2016, 08:03:01 am
I'm pretty sure it is MA legal.
Even if it isnt, they won't have a way to test for it...

Be aware that you will need to reconfigure your motor to make it worthwhile.
Datsun L-series motors that were making 105kW on AvGas, went to 107kW by simply filling with Elf. With a rebuild and retune, they went 115kW on Elf.
With a rebuild and retune to suit 98 pump fuel, they made ~108kW.

Just looked at the Homologated fuel list and ELF is not listed. MA have fuel testing procedures in place but proabably don't bother.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2016, 01:09:29 pm »
email MA [email protected] and ask about ELF.

It doesn't worry me I use 95 RON pump fuel and use maxima octane booster.  The 99 and 98 RON fuels are designed for fuel injected cars and may not be compatible with 2 stroke oil and engines.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2016, 01:23:03 pm »
The higher octane pump fuels aren't always that good either as I was told that not many people buy it and it sits in the servo tanks and deteriorates. I go with the 95 and fuel additive as well.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2016, 01:53:26 pm »
Quote from: KTM47 on March 24, 2016, 01:09:29 pm
email MA [email protected] and ask about ELF.

It doesn't worry me I use 95 RON pump fuel and use maxima octane booster.  The 99 and 98 RON fuels are designed for fuel injected cars and may not be compatible with 2 stroke oil and engines.

Don't the rules specificaly state that no additives other than lube oil are permitted?
« Last Edit: March 24, 2016, 03:06:46 pm by sleepy »
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2016, 03:25:22 pm »
Not a great idea for air cooled engines. Some of these fuels run hot.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2016, 05:17:38 pm »
Quote from: Graham on March 24, 2016, 06:03:04 am
Have heard of some very good results with this stuff, a couple of different brands available. Anyone know if its ok to use in VMX

Works well but you need to tune the engine to it.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2016, 11:28:18 am »
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2016, 01:12:12 pm »
Quote from: PEZBerq on March 25, 2016, 11:28:18 am
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So that would make any of the oxygenated fuels illegal to use. And at $ 20 per litre youd have to be pretty desperate
« Last Edit: March 25, 2016, 01:14:42 pm by Graham »
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2016, 01:22:37 pm »
Yes for this year and maybe the next that is the rule.

However there is a letter from the Aust Government that basically says they intend to phase out the use of leaded fuel over a two year period starting from 2017.

So you can use those fuel now, but for how long?
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2016, 02:49:24 pm »
Avgas won't be phased out.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2016, 04:44:40 pm »
So at the moment you could use an leaded fuel like VP Q16 with an octane of 116 octane and is highly oxygenated but if a fuel is unleaded it can only be 100 octane.
Still looks like using the Maxima octane booster is not permitted.
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Re: oxygenated Race Fuel
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2016, 04:51:52 pm »
how could someone know you had octane booster added?
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