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Offline VMX Andrew

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Maico Madness !
« on: August 06, 2014, 02:55:00 pm »
Apparently Canadian Maico took SoCal Maico to court and has won for breach of copyright and the wrongful use of the name (MAICO)
and made them pull the plug on the website  :o
Can you believe it.
Bit worried about this cause I own 2 Maicos and get my parts off Les at VMX Unlimited.
Will Les be in the firing line next ?
I hope not,dont really wanna deal with anybody else.
Cheers Andrew
 
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 04:54:28 pm »
I was reading about it on face book  theres more to the story ! doug  ( flying dg) may fill you in if he sees this post
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 06:39:30 pm »
John Caldwell (Canadian Maico) has apparently registered two Maico logos in Canada and the USA.  It shouldn't affect Australia and I think a company in Germany owns the rights in Europe.

I have already noticed one US site that hasn't got any Maico logos up.

While I have learnt to never say never, it is very very unlikely I will ever buy anything from Canadian Maico.

He may have registered the rights to some logos but morally does he own them?

Maicos rule despite the fools
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 08:11:33 pm »
Wasp  Are you in Australia??  I thought he had the rights to North America.  I think http://www.ktm-koestler.de/en/maico-bikes/maico-shop/ have the rights in Europe.

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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 08:29:41 pm »
You can always hotlink the logo to somewhere like photobucket and then its not hosted by your host  ;)
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 08:11:34 am »
Quote from: Wasp on August 06, 2014, 08:18:25 pm
Yes we are in Adelaide , but he has a go at anyone using the logo on a website . He complained to Directnic  , so we changed host  , which we where in the process anyway , to launch  the new upcoming website . So the logo will stay .

It would be interesting to know if he as sent letters to Maico Only or Bill Brown in the UK or http://www.ktm-koestler.de/en/maico-bikes/maico-shop/ in Germany.  To my knowledge Koestler owns the name in Europe.  Maybe ask them if you can use the logos.

There will only be one winner in all this and that is the Lawyers.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 08:51:31 am »
Wasp.  I would be interested to know.  When you know who sent you a letter, was it asking you for money to use the logo or just saying you can't use it full stop.

Also has any other owner of a logo (Yamaha, Honda etc, etc) ever said anything about using their logos.
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2014, 09:29:34 am »
Usually they don't worry about it Kev, as it's all FREE advertising they get....imagine if the graphics guys had to pay a fee for every logo they use to put on bikes.
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2014, 09:51:15 am »
Yes but, you know who, apparently wants to control everything Maico.

Anyway the only time I ever had a problem, expressed from someone, was when I sent the graphics for a program cover to Yamaha Australia (Qld).  I was told the tuning fork logo was upside down (apparently a common problem).  Anyway it resulted in the cover front and back and inside being sent to Yamaha's graphic artists and being done at their cost.  Sometimes it pays to ask. 
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 01:34:36 pm »
They appear to be spending a lot of money to make the lawyers richer.

I have noticed some of the companies in the US no longer display the Maico logo.

It really is stupid, don't they know that this is the whole M Star saga again, something that in my opinion contributed to the demise of Maico

Fighting over rights to things can result in all sorts of stupid things occurring, just ask Mike Goodwin.
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2014, 11:56:26 am »
SoCal Maico website http://socalmaico.com/ is back up.

Logos and name still there.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2014, 09:39:48 pm »
Canadian maico got me pulled off eBay for selling aftermarket maico parts by going to eBay and telling them I was selling counterfeit parts. Even the parts that I invented and made for a maico that maico never made was pulled off. I had made some drawings of a new clutch guide plate for the clutch, big and small clutch that would have (I think) made a world class clutch. It will never be made now because of what is going on with Canadian maico.....I have sold all my maico stuff and moved on to other bikes.....so who got hurt in all this? you the guy that rides a maico.....I will never put a cent into making a part for a maico again. You can thank Canadian maico for that! I don't know what John Caldwell is trying to do....but from were I sit it's not helping the VMX community and helping one another is what I loved about this hobby.     
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2014, 09:46:17 pm »
Look at Socal maico website....there is no maico logo.
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2014, 01:17:35 am »
So, it is just the Maico logo and not the name Maico?  I own a famous VMX logo, but I would never stop others from using it.  I just wanted to protect myself from the previous owners, if I decided to use it commercially.
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Re: Maico Madness !
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2014, 01:19:34 am »
Quote from: flyingdg on August 14, 2014, 09:39:48 pm
Canadian maico got me pulled off eBay for selling aftermarket maico parts by going to eBay and telling them I was selling counterfeit parts. Even the parts that I invented and made for a maico that maico never made was pulled off. I had made some drawings of a new clutch guide plate for the clutch, big and small clutch that would have (I think) made a world class clutch. It will never be made now because of what is going on with Canadian maico.....I have sold all my maico stuff and moved on to other bikes.....so who got hurt in all this? you the guy that rides a maico.....I will never put a cent into making a part for a maico again. You can thank Canadian maico for that! I don't clam to know what John Caldwell is trying to do....but from were I sit it's not helping the VMX community and helping one another is what I loved about this hobby.     

Hey Doug,

How are things going?  Do you still have the CR480?

We had better get ready for the letter from Steve Simons.   :D
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