Points scoring

[firko]

Jeez, anyone would think this thread was a meeting of the FIM ratifying a new points system for next years F1 series. When  sheep stations start to be donated as prizes it might be worth reconsidering the system but until then, what we've got seems to work OK.

[Rossvickicampbell]

yep - some people miss the message sometimes - Bill is probably sorry he asked a question now.  I don't worry about points - they usually don't go down that far for me.  Oh and by the way - in WA all the racing is without points (was going to say "pointless" but that might get misconstrued as well  )

[FourstrokeForever]

If it isn't broken, why try to fix it? It seems to me that the fast guys will always be at the front and the rest of us go along for the ride. If a fast guy has a problem or a DNF, that's all part of racing and always will be. Steven Bradbury wouldn't have his gold medal in speed skating if it wasn't for the rest of the field falling over. Basically, you have to finish to have a chance of finishing first.....
What I would like to see, in the interest of having a level playing field, is a 3 meeting series to determine an Aussie VMX championship. Having the titles based on 1 weekend of racing seems to me to be the biggest disadvantage for a racer who has a problem on the day. Stuff up 1 start and it's all over unless some miracle happens. Maybe if there were 6 lap races you could have a red hot chance of making up for a dud start. And when a title is based on 1 track on 1 meeting for the year, the local racers will always have an advantage, so sharing the tracks around would make it all even. It's just a thought bubble 
At club level, I like what WAVMX does in that they don't race for points or the like. They just go for a ride as fast as they can everytime they get on a bike. The racing is still full on but I think not "racing" for points or $2 trophies encourages those that don't really want to bang bars (race) to bring their bikes out for a ride.

[TM BILL]

Who are you calling a wobbler Bill?  To tell you the truth I am not looking at it from a rider's point of view anyway.  I'm looking at it from an official's point of view.  Why make things harder for the official's? 

Bill are you racing the Post Classic Nats at Echo Valley?  If you do make sure you enter the 500 Evo class, then we'll see who the wobbler is.  Also it wouldn't be hard to do what you are saying, (by using the supp-regs, no new rules needed) but I'm not going to tell you how.

KISFW

Kev I was just checking you were paying atten 

No wont be riding PC nats but may come and watch 

I will be over later in the year though for CC so we can have a wobble round together there  I will only bring a 250 though as anything else for me is overkill 

[TM BILL]

yep - some people miss the message sometimes - Bill is probably sorry he asked a question now.  I don't worry about points - they usually don't go down that far for me.  Oh and by the way - in WA all the racing is without points (was going to say "pointless" but that might get misconstrued as well  )

No Ross just thinking out loud  seems the majority are happy with the status quo so I will have to think of something else to dream up 

[TM BILL]

You got too much spare time on your hands Bill?
Try more riding and less thinking

Geoff im bored shitless , im waiting for a pipe and muffler (and an account so I can pay for it ) from some mate of Joan down in Victoria  Until I get that I will have to keep dreaming up ways to irritate the Forum 

[TM BILL]

If it isn't broken, why try to fix it? It seems to me that the fast guys will always be at the front and the rest of us go along for the ride. If a fast guy has a problem or a DNF, that's all part of racing and always will be. Steven Bradbury wouldn't have his gold medal in speed skating if it wasn't for the rest of the field falling over. Basically, you have to finish to have a chance of finishing first.....
What I would like to see, in the interest of having a level playing field, is a 3 meeting series to determine an Aussie VMX championship. Having the titles based on 1 weekend of racing seems to me to be the biggest disadvantage for a racer who has a problem on the day. Stuff up 1 start and it's all over unless some miracle happens. Maybe if there were 6 lap races you could have a red hot chance of making up for a dud start. And when a title is based on 1 track on 1 meeting for the year, the local racers will always have an advantage, so sharing the tracks around would make it all even. It's just a thought bubble 
At club level, I like what WAVMX does in that they don't race for points or the like. They just go for a ride as fast as they can everytime they get on a bike. The racing is still full on but I think not "racing" for points or $2 trophies encourages those that don't really want to bang bars (race) to bring their bikes out for a ride.

A three Rd nats would be great but (wait for the barrage of , that's stupid, expensive, unworkable etc etc on here 

I like the no points rides as much as the next bloke , but if points are up for grabs then to me a system designed for 40 riders doesn't work well with 10 riders .

The ride days sure do bring out more people and bikes we don't normally see 

[TM BILL]

Spot on Popeye . One  "Like " from me .    I think they should install a Like button . Just a suggestion . can you look into that for me , please Bill ?

Im onto it Wal 

[TM BILL]

Really if we're going to make it complicated why not go the hole hog and give extra points to Red German bikes etc and maybe even more for older riders.

Agreed after all they need all the help they can get 

The easier it is for everyone the better it is.  If you can't understand that maybe we should rotate the official jobs.

Worked official roles for 20 + yrs from flaggie to commissioner , just don't feel the need to wear the fact as a badge on my arse 

[09.0]

Shit you are bored. Next you will be answering your own posts!

[TM BILL]

Shit you are bored. Next you will be answering your own posts!
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Ive gotta stay ahead of kev in the postings  hes making a run for that 500 mark 

[KTM47]

Bill hopefully CD will be at Conondale.  To my knowledge nothing is confirmed yet.  I've never liked riding 250s not enough power.  Although I did like 125s, but I'm too fat now.  So you were an official for only 20 years, I've only got about 27 years up so far.

As for running Australian VMX Championships over 3 rounds.  I would suggest that when we can get more than one club a year interested in running one that maybe could be considered, but I don't think anyone should hold their breath.  Really most Vintage/Classic motor racing is just as much about the social side of things so one a year for each section (Classic and Post Classic) is enough.

The only exception to this could be something like Touring Car Masters for Classic MX.  A Pre 90 or maybe up to Pre 95 run in conjunction with modern MX Nations at maybe three rounds.  I'm sure KW would love it.  It seems to work for Jim Richards and John Bowe. 

[GMC]

You got too much spare time on your hands Bill?
Try more riding and less thinking

Geoff im bored shitless , im waiting for a pipe and muffler (and an account so I can pay for it ) from some mate of Joan down in Victoria  Until I get that I will have to keep dreaming up ways to irritate the Forum 

I wasn't aware that Joan had any mates, let alone in Victoria

Try this Bill, it should keep you off the streets for a few hours...

http://www.verivinduro.com.au/57/quiz-4/

[TM BILL]

Awesome Geoff thanks , that's a great site 

[Rossvickicampbell]

I think he had something to do with putting it together Bill - so careful...........................