2013 Classic MX Championships Cancelled

[Barronvmx]

The event has to be run on the same date no matter which club runs it as this has been allocated by MA.

[Davey Crocket]

There are some people getting ahead of themselves here.....

[foxy999]

yes I agree, Keep the false promises off here keyboard racers.

[bigthumpa]

Folks, here is the perspective from WA. Our container is booked but the destination is movable within reason. We have not yet paid for the container that has to be done by the first week in October and depending on the final destination the cost may be more or less. I don't know how many of our guys have paid deposits for accommodation,air fares etc but as far as I am concerned we could point the container in any direction. I spoke to Shane Fraser on Saturday and had bit of a chat. I can assure you all that the commissioners will be working very hard to secure another host club to run the championships and I would like to think that you all will support them as they are there for the sport.
I also suggested that maybe we could assist that club in any way we can for instance it could be possible for us to bring our club's PA system( with the approval of the VMXWA commitee), to cut some costs, for example. I feel that to let this years event fall over could lead to loss of momentum in the the whole nationals thing which obviously would be detrimental to the sport. So come on guys enough  MA bashing, leave the ACTMCC guys alone what's happened has happened and no amount of analysis or soul searching is going to solve anything. Let's get positive and get this whole thing back on the tracks.

Yours as always in vintage motocross
Nick Maxfield

[nada]

The sooner we get away from MA the better, there are a couple of local clubs up here in South QLD that have done so and they wish they had done it years ago, they are finally more financial, double there membership and entries, improved there facilities beyond anything they could have before, just a pitty more clubs don't do the same.

More info on this?? Who provides the insurance and governing body?

[Barronvmx]

Please note that my comments are an expression of interest not what is happening nor has the club BMCC discussed this idea.
I just am passionate about the sport and I'm so pissed off with the Canberra out come that I like most want a solution.
Please note that I am no longer BMCC club president and do not decide which direction the club will go.
If any club is willing to take on the CVMX titles I am willing to give my advice and experiance to assist in the 2013 Classic motocross titles.

[firko]

Folks, here is the perspective from WA. Our container is booked but the destination is movable within reason. We have not yet paid for the container that has to be done by the first week in October and depending on the final destination the cost may be more or less. I don't know how many of our guys have paid deposits for accommodation, air fares etc but as far as I am concerned we could point the container in any direction. I spoke to Shane Fraser on Saturday and had bit of a chat. I can assure you all that the commissioners will be working very hard to secure another host club to run the championships and I would like to think that you all will support them as they are there for the sport.
I also suggested that maybe we could assist that club in any way we can for instance it could be possible for us to bring our club's PA system( with the approval of the VMXWA commitee), to cut some costs, for example. I feel that to let this years event fall over could lead to loss of momentum in the the whole nationals thing which obviously would be detrimental to the sport. So come on guys enough  MA bashing, leave the ACTMCC guys alone what's happened has happened and no amount of analysis or soul searching is going to solve anything. Let's get positive and get this whole thing back on the tracks.

If only we all had the passion and dedication of the West Aussies . The Canberra Nats has fallen in a big hole but the Sandgropers are still willing to pitch in to get it happening elsewhere. I'm also prepared to offer any skills I may have to  get the 2013 Nats up and running again and I'm sure many of you reading this are willing to do the same. The first and most obvious challenge is to find a suitable venue that fits the criteria. There are a lot of tracks out there and a lot of clubs with the ability to promote a meeting of this magnitude...we just have to think laterally and somehow put paddock A and club B together to get things happening. As I'm not a member of any club I can only speak as an individual and offer up "what if?'' hypothetical alternatives. HEAVEN has their annual Canowindra Cup meeting set down for October 19/20 so would it be feasible for that date and venue to converted to the Nats? Or to maintain the Nats lodged date, keep the Canowindra Cup meeting in place but reuse the venue a fortnight later for the Nats? I fully understand that there are a lot of limitations with the track layout and most probably with its availability but on the plus side the venue has all of the needed facilities and the town has plenty of accommodation. Sometimes compromises offer up far more pleasant results than ever envisioned.

Then there is Buladelah and Barleigh Ranch...both proven tracks that can handle this event. However, I'm being a bit cruel to HEAVEN or any other by throwing this at them, I wouldn't blame them one bit for not wanting to get involved. There's very little to be gained by any club running the Nats, in fact it's very easy for a club to lose money on these events so I'd also propose that if a club does decide to pick up the cancelled date, they get some financial dispensations from MA. It was very easy to type these words but I'm well aware that the reality is a lot harder but the discussion has to start somewhere.

[Davey Crocket]

The first thing you need is money.....get someone to chip in 10-20K and then it's all of a sudden more appealing to a club to take it on......helps take the stress out of "what if we loose money"....end of the day...money talks, bullshit walks...less than 3 months to pull something off is a big ask.

[firko]

The first thing you need is money.....get someone to chip in 10-20K and then it's all of a sudden more appealing to a club to take it on......helps take the stress out of "what if we loose money"....end of the day...money talks, bullshit walks...less than 3 months to pull something off is a big ask.

I agree, it's a bit of an ask to expect it to happen but what are we supposed to do, curl up in the fetal position and hope it all fixes itself? We need to at least try and get something happening if just for the self esteem of vintage motocross. The cancellations of both Nats has done serious damage to our sport that's going to take a lot of glue to fix so why not start now rather than expecting it to all fall back into place next year? If we lose the pre 78 momentum we may never get it all back.

On a personal level I'm disappointed for eighty something year old Bill Watson who was coming over from W.A. to race at probably his last Nats. The old fella is a legend and a great old warrior for our sport and deserved a better career send off than this.

[FourstrokeForever]

The first thing you need is money.....get someone to chip in 10-20K and then it's all of a sudden more appealing to a club to take it on......helps take the stress out of "what if we loose money"....end of the day...money talks, bullshit walks...less than 3 months to pull something off is a big ask.

It would be great to think that our small part in motor cycling sport meant enough to the powers that be that a state body and MA could work together to finance this show somehow, year in, year out, without the hosting club having to dip into their own finances. I think it's more than enough that the host provides the manpower to make it work.

Even a small gesture like negating all the licensing fees for the club would help. Something. Anything......

[matcho mick]

canowindra,pharrrkkkk,firko,it's in the middle of a trotting track,it's a showground ffs,tracks mapped out with20ltr plastic containers full of water connected to 3k's of bunting,& theres no jumps (bonus  ),the deputy mayor Greg would spin,(but he can walk the talk  ),the golf club would freak (catering),how about Clarence, up the big hill from sidinee,

[FourstrokeForever]

Funny you should mention Clarence Matcho.

I'm not far from your thinking. Just up the road a bit further to Oberon.

I don't know if the track still exists but I rode the Amcross series there in 2002. Brilliant fast and flowing track with no big jumps etc. From memory it was around 2.5k's long as well.

Last time I rode at Clarence it had a few doubles in it. I don't like the idea of taking them on on my B50!

[firko]

),how about Clarence, up the big hill from sidinee, : 

For the reasons that Canowindra is unsuitable because it's so simple, Clarence doesn't cut it because it's a stuttery jumpy dustbowl. Two down, next please

[matcho mick]

heavens done clarence twice in the last couple of seasons,it's not bad,(if it don't rain on racedays),the guys groomed it couple times for heaven,ie took the nasties out,ok it can have trackwatering issues,what track hasn't,but it's layouts cool,theres fair bit of camping room,ammenities would be overwhelmed,extra backup portos??,blah blah,just my thoughts,

[firko]

Lake Glenbawn?