Trick as poop AW440 Maico on vft.org

[09.0]

Come on Brad ...you know better than that..!! 1976... down pipe..original... I know Mark and I have been blatting on about the wording for some time now.....it is the same wording in the pre 75 stuff... Maybe it is about time that those who think the wording is incorrect , or , rather, needs correcting , should submit a change to MA .. after all , it is about re-creating and era... not about adding on later parts..

Isn't that you? You make a fuss about it when it raises its ugly head. I haven't ever read the rules on this but silly me relies on common sense. There were period correct up pipes back in the day just like the one I had for my ossa. So I assume its you that has to lobby for the changes then 

[JohnnyO]

I just read the ad properly, was only checking out the pics on my phone earlier. I don't agree with moving barrel studs either but I do think a period correct copy of a bolt on reed block would be the ticket.

[09.0]

I don't think putting a kx500 reed block is a problem in the u.s. I say this as flying dg is running a modern reed block on his '74 Maico and wouldn't do it if it was illegal.

[motomaniac]

whats the issue with the up pipe , grab any dirt bike type mag from the era and you'll see plenty of pics of aw Maicos with up pipes and probably some ads and hot up articles.Wheelsmith and protopipe come to mind . Same as the CRs like Johnny O said.

[firko]

There's some weird anomolies in the AHRMA rules....you can run modern reeds on your pre 75 but you can't run a tapered header pipe on your expansion chamber. I don't think Maicos need reeds anyway. I ran both MX250 and GEM/CZ reeds on square and radial Maicos and didn't notice enough difference to warrant the welding and machining involved. However, if I'd been allowed to run big reeds like our feature bike on page 1, I think I might well have noticed a big difference.
 

1976 AW 440 Maico has the exhaust going where..?? does it come out of the cylinder and go down and under  ..or over the top like the bike in the Pic....??..  

To answer Brians question..both. The AW MC ran a downpipe while the GS enduro version ran an up pipe.
                                                    
                                                    

[motomaniac]

Come on boys .

http://www.vmxunlimited.com/wheelsmith-pipe-76-77-400-maico-up-pipe/

http://www.google.com.au/imgres?hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1T4ADBR_enAU306AU306&biw=1024&bih=536&tbm=isch&tbnid=T0gc_BBzBLJGdM:&imgrefurl=http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/668330-whats-happening-supertec.html&docid=TzzBPlTAhmFdoM&imgurl=http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads20/20539_296707500908_167209720908_3359965_2608831_n1333128358.jpg&w=604&h=332&ei=Wi5UUcfiEsWjkgXq2YHYDA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=538&vpy=137&dur=3859&hovh=166&hovw=303&tx=114&ty=185&page=1&tbnh=133&tbnw=231&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0,i:124

[JohnnyO]

I don't even know why someone bought up the up pipe eligibility issue.. That's just ridiculous. They were everywhere in 76/77 and they're everywhere now.

[Brian Watson]

 I don't make the rules guys..... It is however, there in black and white....

[Tahitian_Red]

So, period correct aftermarket parts are illegal down-under, on pre-78 bikes?

 

[JohnnyO]

So, period correct aftermarket parts are illegal down-under, on pre-78 bikes?

 

No they are all pretty much legal. There is a rule in pre 75 about exhausts having to follow original lines, if that rule is in pre 78 also (I'm not sure) then it shouldn't be, up pipes, snail pipes, snake pipes etc were all available in the era.

[FireKwaka]

Not to sabotage this thread but were do I get one of those Vforce3 reed blocks for my KX500??

[paul]

not that it matters but a 76 gs is actually the last years modded mx  frame  which would make it a 75 frame  ithink

[firko]

I don't make the rules guys..... It is however, there in black and white....

So why are you so obsessed with it Brian? You've been around long enough to know that there were aftermarket pipes available in the day...I had (still have it tucked away) an Aaen Engineering up pipe on my 440 Maico in 1974 as did a large number of racers who were fitting all sorts of different pipes in the pre 78 era. The rule you keep referring to hasn't been used in anger for years so give it a rest mate, it's old and of no real consequence any more. If you think the wording needs changing or even deleted go through the process via your club.

[Brian Watson]

Obssessed...?? that may be a bit over stated..!! what intrigues me are the number of people who comment..then say they haven't read the rules... then say ...well , it is OK... I know it is in the rules , buy, hey, I know ABCD was around in the day so , I'll ignore the rules... I won't be putting a down pipe on any of my bikes any day soon...even tho they were available.. This started out as commenting on a bike ..the moves over to attacking the person... a fairly typical tactic on lots of fourms... For my sixpence... I believe the wording is fine... for pre 75 AND pre 78...

[motomaniac]

So, period correct aftermarket parts are illegal down-under, on pre-78 bikes?

 

depends who youtalk to and how much swy theyhave with the scruts but generally no aftermarket parts re not illegal.be a rety dull scene if they were ,altough some commrades it seems would like everyone riding the same bikes with the same andlebars with weld on clutch and brake perches!