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Firko strikes gold.
« on: March 12, 2013, 10:54:14 am »
As most of you know I've got a big love of American flat track bikes and own a couple of two stroke Yamaha examples and have been slowly assembling the parts to build a Trackmaster XS650 and a replica of Gene Hartline's 650 Benelli flat tracker of the late 60's. The latter two projects are now on hold and will probably be sold because I've fallen upon something very special.

I've managed to buy a genuine Shell Thuet OW72 750 Yamaha flat tracker, a bike that's so rare they very hardly ever come up for sale, this is the Dirt Track equivalent of finding an OW motocrosser. The bike was being sold by the widow of a good friend in Las Vegas and although I had no plans for any more bikes until I finished my current projects, this bike shone like a beacon and I just had to have it. A Shell racer with a production based motor recently sold for $9000 at auction and a genuine works OW powered bike sold a couple of years ago for $22000. I paid $3700us for mine in dismantled but fully restored condition. My friend Bob was in the process of assembling the bike when he suddenly died three years ago. The engine has been fully refurbished by a known specialist, the frame re-nickeled, the wheels rebuilt and the bodywork freshly painted in factory Yamaha colours. I've been assured by the seller that all of the major parts are there, the only things not found so far being the seat pad and Grimeca rear brake, hanger and Barnes wheel knock off hardware. There's a possibility that Bob had sent them out for refurbishment and unfortunately died before picking them up.

From what I can find out, the OW72 750 engine shares no parts with it's XS650 production brother. The transmission is close ratio handmade by Webster, the clutch is titanium or magnesium, the crank cases are cast with better material and feature additional internal webbing to handle the big HP, the crank is lighter, Carillo rods and Shells own pistons and camshaft are used and the head is a special casting with different angled inlet tract and different valve angle+bigger ports, the ignition is YZ/OW motocrosser based and a lot more stuff I'm yet to learn.

I'm about to enter into a big a learning curve on these things so once the bike is safely out of the US I'll be contacting those in the know. Unfortunately, the creator of these bikes and the head of the Yamaha flat track team at the time Shell Thuet died a couple of years ago aged 98. Thankfully there are a number of folks who know a bit about OW72 engines so they'll be getting a hammering from me ;D The bike has Ceriani forks, Barnes wheels, Shell frame and bodywork, S&W shocks (Shell Thuet was th S in S&W along with Tim Witham. Every Shell has S&W shocks fork springs and valve springs of course) The pipes are 1.75" reverse megaphone tuned length thin wall items and there are no silencers so we'll have to cross the noise bridge when we get to it. As rare as this bike is, it will most definitely be raced in the twins race series and anything else it qualifies for. It's ironic that fellow Klub Kevlar Komrade Fast Eddie Phipps owns the ex Eddie Lawson OW72 Shell, an almost identical bike to mine, the only two OW's outside of the USA that we know of.
   http://vft.org/Memorial/Shell/ShellThuet.html

                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
                                                        
Below: Tom Hortons identical '74 works Shell OW750
                                                                  
« Last Edit: March 15, 2013, 04:19:33 pm by firko »
'68 Yamaha DT1 enduro, '69 Yamaha 'DT1 from Hell' '69 DT1'Dunger from Hell, '69 Cheney Yamaha 360, 70 Maico 350 (2 off), '68 Hindall Ducati 250, Hindall RT2MX, Hindall YZ250a , Cycle Factory RT2MX flat tracker, Yamaha 1T250J, Maico 250 trials, '71, Boyd and Stellings TM400, Shell OW72,750 Yamaha

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Re: Firko strikes gold.
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 11:17:33 am »
Sweet!
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Re: Firko strikes gold.
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 11:30:09 am »
Wow! :)
Top score Firko,
shame about your friend though.
you'll need to keep Freaky away from your door now...
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Re: Firko strikes gold.
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 11:36:10 am »
mark
nice one
 i have been doing some digging on a gen pre70 750 flattracker as well.now just those pesky rear disc brakes to sort out dates
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2013, 11:56:28 am »
                                                  
http://superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jul/110713shell.htm  http://sliderulemuseum.com/ShellThuet/Shell_Thuet_Biography.pdf
Still Kickin'
by dean adams
Tuesday, August 14, 2007
 
A true legend in dirt track racing, Shell Thuet turned 95 earlier this month. You may have heard of his former riders: Kenny Roberts, Eddie Lawson and Wayne Rainey.
image by dennis kanegae
Shell Thuet's life spans the eras and generations in motorcycle racing. A famed engine-builder and tuner, his involvement in American motorcycle racing began in the 1930s and, impressively, he was still a fixture in dirt track racing over fifty years later.

While infamous for a gruff personality, Sheldon Thuet was respected by the best and fastest racers from the 1940s through the 1970s. He built fast motorcycles for at least two generations of riders. In the modern era, Thuet became the de facto Yamaha 650 Twin tuner in the dirt track ranks.
Riders who used a "Shell Racing Specialties" Yamaha to tear it up on dirt tracks the country over include  Wayne Rainey, Hank Scott, Gene Romero, Keith Mashburn, Donnie Castro, Eddie Lawson, Tom Horton and, of course, King Kenny Roberts.  


While nearly all of the tuners of the 1940s have joined Smokin' Joe Petrali in the big paddock in the sky, Thuet, amazingly, recently celebrated his 95th birthday.

It's exiting to think that one of the above legends may have ridden my bike. There'll be a bit of research going into this once I get it.
                                                                                        
                                                                                                          
« Last Edit: March 12, 2013, 12:04:05 pm by firko »
'68 Yamaha DT1 enduro, '69 Yamaha 'DT1 from Hell' '69 DT1'Dunger from Hell, '69 Cheney Yamaha 360, 70 Maico 350 (2 off), '68 Hindall Ducati 250, Hindall RT2MX, Hindall YZ250a , Cycle Factory RT2MX flat tracker, Yamaha 1T250J, Maico 250 trials, '71, Boyd and Stellings TM400, Shell OW72,750 Yamaha

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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2013, 11:57:10 am »
very nice addition..

do you have a picture of the Gremica caliper?

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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 12:04:53 pm »
Mmmmm the cream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a fantastic pick up Mark  :D Cheers
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 12:16:24 pm »
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very nice addition..
do you have a picture of the Gremica caliper?

My mistake.....The rear brake is actually made by Kennedy Mfg as listed in the cattle dog page on my previous post and best news of all, it's shown up along with the original back wheel which also comes with the bike. The missing Barnes quick change tackle is there as well.
                                                           
'68 Yamaha DT1 enduro, '69 Yamaha 'DT1 from Hell' '69 DT1'Dunger from Hell, '69 Cheney Yamaha 360, 70 Maico 350 (2 off), '68 Hindall Ducati 250, Hindall RT2MX, Hindall YZ250a , Cycle Factory RT2MX flat tracker, Yamaha 1T250J, Maico 250 trials, '71, Boyd and Stellings TM400, Shell OW72,750 Yamaha

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2013, 01:02:42 pm »
Great work Uncle Firko.
Anything works is very cool -Well Done!!

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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2013, 03:58:41 pm »
Good score, howdya beat Jonesy to it?

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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2013, 04:13:24 pm »
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Good score, howdya beat Jonesy to it?
She offered it to me first....he'd have grabbed it if I hadn't, Jim would have too.

Here's a good piece I found on the OW72 heads. http://thexscafedotcom.wordpress.com/2011/09/13/xs650-ouow72-heads/
'68 Yamaha DT1 enduro, '69 Yamaha 'DT1 from Hell' '69 DT1'Dunger from Hell, '69 Cheney Yamaha 360, 70 Maico 350 (2 off), '68 Hindall Ducati 250, Hindall RT2MX, Hindall YZ250a , Cycle Factory RT2MX flat tracker, Yamaha 1T250J, Maico 250 trials, '71, Boyd and Stellings TM400, Shell OW72,750 Yamaha

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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2013, 04:48:01 pm »
 Great get Mark!, You and Fipps will look great battling it out at Nepean!

 Cant wait to see that!
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2013, 05:45:02 pm »
What an awsome piece of gear, gone to a good home. Shame another enthusiast had to meet the reaper for it to happen though. Keen to see the end result of your assembly Firko!!
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2013, 06:21:38 pm »
Thats really nice Firko,
I bet thats your friend would have wanted, i know i would...
goood luck to you mate.
Let us know when its gunna run at Nepean.

Maybe you should look up Kel Coruthers

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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 08:44:31 pm »




Firko that swingarm looks a dead ringa of my Redline swingarm, are they made by both the same frame builders ???