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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2012, 08:59:10 am »
I always thought that real HL's had a 3 valve head?
Is that true or was it only a few special ones?

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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2012, 09:48:02 am »
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Is it just me or is it the more knowledge you gain on the details of old bikes the more pathetic you feel 
It can be a curse ::).

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Wonder how Sten Lundin and Torsten Hallman would feel about all these jacked up wonders
Every time I see an HL with 43mm forks and long rear shocks I ask the same question. They are such a cool bike in their original stance.
                                                             
                                                                     
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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2012, 10:02:12 am »
I always thought that real HL's had a 3 valve head?
Is that true or was it only a few special ones?

A small number of 3 valve heads were produced tested on Bengts race bike as a skunk works R&D project connected to the whole HL500 deal.  Finally the moulds and the heads went back to Japan to disappear.... except for 1 head which is still in the Aberg garage from all accounts, we asked Bengt.

Daytona the Japanese perfromance house did high port big valve head for SR500 racing, price is a little ouch though.
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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2012, 10:07:13 am »
Wonder how Sten Lundin and Torsten Hallman would feel about all these jacked up wonders
Every time I see an HL with 43mm forks and long rear shocks I ask the same question. They are such a cool bike in their original stance.                                                        
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Not this old Chesnut again, yes true the short travel bikes suit Hobbit size riders.  'Stance' sounds like something they talk about in Live to Ride magazine.
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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2012, 10:24:47 am »
 ;D Hobbit size riders
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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2012, 11:26:38 am »
Wonder how Sten Lundin and Torsten Hallman would feel about all these jacked up wonders
Every time I see an HL with 43mm forks and long rear shocks I ask the same question. They are such a cool bike in their original stance.                                                        

Not this old Chesnut again, yes true the short travel bikes suit Hobbit size riders.  'Stance' sounds like something they talk about in Live to Ride magazine.
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Yeah Bengt Aberg is Hobbit sized  ::) ::) ::)

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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2012, 11:29:10 am »
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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2012, 11:33:34 am »
I just tentatively sold much nicer White Bros one with the original stay arm that holds the brake cable for $700 NZ and turned it into DR400 White Bros arm.

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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2012, 02:24:21 pm »


Anti-squat, like lots of good things, can be taken too far sometimes....... ::)

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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2012, 03:22:54 pm »
its a lot easier to get on when your bike is lowered right ross  ;D
there was a lot off swearing going on that day

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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2012, 03:50:03 pm »
The guy with the HL is looking for an air-box for the bike.  Anyone know if there are any reproductions being made?

He said he found it listed as a trail bike.  :o
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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2012, 04:06:29 pm »
you will have to ask him if it will fit a pro fab frame

http://www.geoffmorrisconcepts.com/23/online-shop/254-Hl-Alloy-Airbox-Polished/

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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2012, 06:57:29 pm »
So, I would guess this is an early ProFab



Actually I reckon it could be a late Profab.
Compared to this one from 77, TR's frame has a different bend in the backbone tube and the shock mounts are higher in the frame, Possibly to fit longer shocks for more travel.



If anyone really hates the long travel versions that much then maybe you should send off some angry e-mails to Rick Johnson & Ron Lechien  :D





The guy with the HL is looking for an air-box for the bike.  Anyone know if there are any reproductions being made?

If I remember correctly my sidecovers and exhaust fit the Profab frames but the airbox doesn't
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Re: HL500 ID
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2012, 07:46:40 pm »
Profab has a different hanger-bracket for the airbox than the NVT.

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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2012, 07:54:19 pm »
One way to spot the difference on the NVT compared to ProFab/Aaberg is that the frame is much closer to the engine on the ProFab.
Look at the front engineplate.
ProFab:

NVT: