Having fun on my behalf fellows, you self confessed matured Adults, thats good, I hope you bring up your own children to have respect, manners, and to treat others the same as you personally
would like to be treated. I am sure you have. 
Dave thats a low blow mate :'( i never claimed to be mature

)I tried that growing up once , 12th of may 1979 worst experience of my life

came with all sorts of accessories like respect and responsibility . Lets not bring the kids into this

haven't those poor buggers suffered enough with me for a dad

I did bring em up with a sense of humour though Dave

Cmo'n dave your an Aussie have a laugh

dont behave like one of those humourless money grabbing short arse eastern europeans you find trolling forums