What's legal ?

[Davey Crocket]

Gee Tony, I dont think that Maico would even fit our pre78 rules....have a good look at it mate....front and back and dont just stick up for him cause hes your mate....if you guys had some sort of organised system thats fair, you might find the numbers increasing.....its not that hard.

[09.0]

.    Approach would necessarily work here most of our riders a way too laid back to get into the crap it can throw up .   

95% happens here in cyber space....

[suzuki59]

Bloody hell Joan your medication sure is working well 
Mate if we tried to import the Aussie rule book into NZ, the sport would die.

Far too much politics and bullshit involved, which is not the NZ VMX formula.

If it aint broke, don't fix it,end of story.
 

[JohnnyO]

Bloody hell Joan your medication sure is working well 
Mate if we tried to import the Aussie rule book in NZ, the sport would die.Far too much politics and bullshit involved, which is not the NZ VMX formula.

If it aint broke, don't fix it,end of story.
 

It aint broke here either, I don't see or hear any of this crap at race meetings. It's the keyboard experts on here with nothing better to do.
If Iain really wanted to know if it was legal or not he should ask an MA classic scrutineer or official, no one in this discussion has the authority to say yay or nay. This could go 20 pages and you still won't have an answer.

[suzuki59]

Bloody hell Joan your medication sure is working well 
Mate if we tried to import the Aussie rule book in NZ, the sport would die.Far too much politics and bullshit involved, which is not the NZ VMX formula.

If it aint broke, don't fix it,end of story.
 

It aint broke here either, I don't see or hear any of this crap at race meetings. It's the keyboard experts on here with nothing better to do.
If Iain really wanted to know if it was legal or not he should ask an MA classic scrutineer or official, no one in this discussion has the authority to say yay or nay. This could go 20 pages and you still won't have an answer.

AMEN John.

[motomaniac]

Why not run last place in pre 78 and stick to the rules instead of running last place in pre 75 and breaking them? Why not try Crockets idea and see how good a bike you can make it (for pre 78)?

Cut-off dates are a mind set. I think you can do well on anything if you take the time to set it up properly.

Thread killer ! Now what are the boys going to hypothesize about ?

Shit ,howwrong can you be?

[firko]

Mate if we tried to import the Aussie rule book in NZ, the sport would die.Far too much politics and bullshit involved, which is not the NZ VMX formula

If you judged the Aussie VMX rule problems from what you read on this forum you'd be forgiven for thinking that it's a giant shitfight, with punters lined up with their $60 protest fee in hand at every race meeting. The real story is very different. 99% of vintage racers happily build their bikes to the rulebook and go about their enjoyment of our sport with nary a hint of drama. In the real world away from the computer, protests and rulebook fudgeing are actually few and far between.

Having only ever been to one NZ VMX meeting I'm not really an expert on how the set up is but from my observations and from conversations with my many Kiwi mates, I reckon the 'rules' may be a bit on the loose side. The South Island runs a totally different set of rules to the North Island which is a bit confusing in itself. There are good reasons the rest of the VMX world went with the pre 65/pre 75/pre 85/Evo splits but for some reason best known to them the Kiwis opted for different cutoff/eligibility criteria. The meeting I went to in Timaru was a loose mix of four stroke/British class, short travel and long travel classes (I'm sure it was more defining than that but to us outsiders that's how it looked). There were more than enough bikes there to split them in a pre '65/ pre 75/pre 85 manner but they did it their way. Maybe the Kiwis want to keep it loose and free and if that's the case, good on 'em but I reckon if they want the sport to grow on both islands it'd be more advantageous in the long run to adopt cutoffs and eligibility criteria that ties in with what Australia, USA, UK and Europe largely follow..........just my 2 bobs worth )

[motomaniac]

Mate if we tried to import the Aussie rule book in NZ, the sport would die.Far too much politics and bullshit involved, which is not the NZ VMX formula

The real story is very different. 99% of vintage racers happily build their bikes to the rulebook and go about their enjoyment of our sport with nary a hint of drama. [/i]

So what is the answer to the original question? What class ,if not the pre 75, is the forum members bike thats he's contemplating building eligable for?

[GMC]

The day before today,One day, making tracks
In the prairie of Prax,
Came a North-Going Zax
And a South-Going Zax.
And it happened that both of them came to a place
Where they bumped. There they stood.
Foot to foot. Face to face.

“Look here, now!” the North-Going Zax said, “I say!
You are blocking my path. You are right in my way.
I’m a North-Going Zax and I always go north.
Get out of my way, now, and let me go forth!”
“Who’s in whose way?” snapped the South-Going Zax.
“I always go south, making south-going tracks.
So you’re in MY way! And I ask you to move
And let me go south in my south-going groove.”

Then the North-Going Zax puffed his chest up with pride.
“I never,” he said, “take a step to one side.
And I’ll prove to you that I won’t change my ways
If I have to keep standing here fifty-nine days!”
“And I’ll prove to YOU,” yelled the South-Going Zax,
“That I can stand here in the prairie of Prax
For fifty-nine years! For I live by a rule
That I learned as a boy back in South-Going School.
Never budge! That’s my rule. Never budge in the least!
Not an inch to the west! Not an inch to the east!
I’ll stay here, not budging! I can and I will
If it makes you and me and the whole world stand still!”

Well…
Of course the world didn’t stand still. The world grew.
In a couple of years, the new highway came through
And they built it right over those two stubborn Zax
And left them there, standing un-budged in their tracks.

[firko]

Deep....and funny

So what is the answer to the original question? 

Nice try, but I'm not going there.

[motomaniac]

.    Approach would necessarily work here most of our riders a way too laid back to get into the crap it can throw up .   

95% happens here in cyber space....

and where does the other 5% happen ?

[motomaniac]

Well…
Of course the world didn’t stand still. The world grew.
In a couple of years, the new highway came through
And they built it right over those two stubborn Zax
And left them there, standing un-budged in their tracks.

Haha pretty funny but the  Zacs on this forum who want to create something in their own garage just go back and do it anyway. Anyone seen Doc around lately?

[Hoony]

......................Anyone seen Doc around lately?

No not for awhile, i miss his project builds and the pics of his restos.

that bloke can turn shit into strawberry jam.

[JohnnyO]

......................Anyone seen Doc around lately?

No not for awhile, i miss his project builds and the pics of his restos.

that bloke can turn shit into strawberry jam.

He's on Facebook every other day...

[Doc]

yup..still lurking motomaniac. I prefer to sit on the sidelines and watch the legality debates these days as they really don't affect me.

and thanks Hoony ..Bi-Lo strawberry jam maybe not