'74 Suzuki TM250 L

[firko]

Former vintage racer John Vergotis rang me last week to tell me that he'd like to sell off his last few vintage racers. He hasn't used them since the 90's as he's now involved with V8 Super Car racing. I well remember John's bikes being fast and immaculately presented. The TM250 is fitted with an RH top end and a close ratio transmission. Because it's been sitting for a decade or so you'd have to go through it a little but John reckons all of the big money's been spent....all that's needed is a tidy up. It's currently set up for dirt track but it'd be easily converted back to MX trim. John's asking $4000 o.n.o.
ring John Vergotis on 0247824074 or ah 0417203995

[Freakshow]

i thought the guys on here said you cant fit RH bits to TM 's ?

[Simo63]

Finally took delivery of the TM today (now my TM250  and it's an absolute peach of a bike.  I can't wait to ride it 

Thanks for listing this Firko.  John is a fantastic guy and I'm really happy to have purchased this equally fantastic bike from him.  I look forward to adding another chapter to it's racing history 

[shortshifter]

Craig,sounds like it could be your ride in the pre75 250 classes at the classic nats in June

[Simo63]

Craig,sounds like it could be your ride in the pre75 250 classes at the classic nats in June

It is Paul .. in fact I had already entered it before I took delivery 

Already had new MX tyres fitted yesterday .. maybe a shed night at my place next Wednesday with the guys and you can check it out?

[Simo63]

Craig,sounds like it could be your ride in the pre75 250 classes at the classic nats in June

Turns out it wasn't after all

[TM BILL]

What happened 

[shortshifter]

Same as Bill,

[mick25]

Same as bill  was it a later model frame not pre 75 legal

[Doc]

Does unfortunately look like a '75 frame around the upper rear shock mount area

[firko]

Me too....I feel bad if it's illegal as I sort of prompted the deal . The bike raced regularly in the 90's with no concerns so I wonder what the problem is?

[Simo63]

The problem is that it's apparently a 1975 frame.  Having very little knowledge of these bikes I had absolutely no idea until I rolled up at scrutineering and was told that I couldn't ride in pre 75.

Frame number is TM250-50073 and the 5 at the beginning designates it a 1975 frame.  Apparently the only difference is the rear shock position is different by about three quarters of an inch.

When I got home yesterday I checked the 3 other frames I have here and every one of them has a 4 designating them all as 1974 frames.  This frame is the only one that starts with a 5 and if I had of known that beforehand I could easily have changed the frame to the one that I was starting to build before buying this one from John.

I learnt a lot about a lot of things this weekend.

[Simo63]

Does unfortunately look like a '75 frame around the upper rear shock mount area

I had no idea it wasn't a 74 frame until Friday.  I purchased it as it was advertised and relied on the ad being accurate.   

It's interesting you can see that from the pictures because when I rolled into scrutineering I got the feeling that other people knew as well.  In fact one of the officials said they knew the bike.

I'm obviously as stupid as I look but I wish someone could have said this to me before the race weekend.  It would have saved a whole lot of heartache.

[Simo63]

Sorry also I believe one of the scrutineers said the shock position on the swingarm had been changed?  I guess that also constitutes an illegal mod as well?

There were a couple of scrutineers or experts involved in the short conversation and I recall one of them (please forgive me as I was in a bit of shock at the time and there was a few people talking about the bike so I wasn't able to focus clearly).

Also someone that commented on the RH Barrell and head but I am not sure if he was just commenting on it or whether or not he was saying it was also illegal.

[Doc]

Sorry I never looked at the pics close enough to notice it earlier Simo As you said the difference is sweet bugger all which only adds salt to the wound. '74 RH parts are legit, you can race a '74 RH250 in pre'75 hence it follows that all parts from said model are also 100% legal.