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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 01:50:07 pm »
there are names for people like you, but damn it, noice!!!lol

thanks Tossa, but just took it down as lets keep this dirt bikes. anyway I guess my point is you can do this VMX thing without it costing sheep stations, especially with money a bit tight you don't have spend a fortune to ride/race something cool.

How about clean 73 WR250 Husky motor $200, mint powder coated frame and swingarm $200, wheels forks etc $300 and you are probably off to the races with cool pre 75 250 Husky for $1500 or so.

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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 01:53:09 pm »
My Ducati rebuilt cost more than any VMX , small countries have less debt than that cost. Just to rebuild brembo brakes was like $800.00

If you go all gushy over say a bevel 900SS, you can easily put 10 K just into the engine. What Brembo's cost you $800 ?, I can buy twin pot ones for $100 a pair off Yahoo so just bought adaptors for my F1 and stocked up on cheap calipers.
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 02:04:35 pm »
Unless you want really original Ducati I would throw the 08/05 Brembos in the bin

Use adaptors and fit 4 pots or radials for that matter

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 02:16:44 pm »
There you go brand new set of 05/08 $260 bucks a pair

Ebay has 4 ports 45mm spacing for $199 brand new each. Which purveyor of finest Ducati products got to you ... good chance I may even know them from my mis spent youth

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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 02:30:47 pm »
My Ducati rebuilt cost more than any VMX , small countries have less debt than that cost. Just to rebuild brembo brakes was like $800.00

If you go all gushy over say a bevel 900SS, you can easily put 10 K just into the engine. What Brembo's cost you $800 ?, I can buy twin pot ones for $100 a pair off Yahoo so just bought adaptors for my F1 and stocked up on cheap calipers.

When I did my 900 SS there was no Ebay etc, It was a basket case that had been in prang with bent frame and then left outside for 3 years motor full of water etc, When I purchased it for 3k I thought I stole it , 15 odd K later and at the time I owned a complete engineering shop and did all the work.
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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2011, 03:09:04 pm »
When I did my 900 SS there was no Ebay etc, It was a basket case that had been in prang with bent frame and then left outside for 3 years motor full of water etc, When I purchased it for 3k I thought I stole it , 15 odd K later and at the time I owned a complete engineering shop and did all the work.

Yeah i am kind of familiar with the model, I had one 900SS and at the time thought I had made out like a bandit getting a decent  ::)trade on a Paso

If you want to really redefine expensive try doing the same rebuild on a Laverda ... any Laverda,
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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2011, 03:39:47 pm »
we did a resto on a cbx 1000 honda-the 6cylinder thingy.the owner wasnt interested in doing any of the work ie polishing or painting bits and pieces.this was a ground upresto lucky the crank and bottom end was good.end cost from memory was 23000.00.he wouldnt even look for parts on ebay i told him if i had to chase them he would be paying hrly rate.most be good working in the mines :D

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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2011, 04:19:32 pm »
i told him if i had to chase them he would be paying hrly rate.most be good working in the mines :D

Yup, last bike I restored at BJ's was a 200cc Triumph Cub that ended up at $7K for a Miner - cost didn't seem to phase him at all even when I told him the bike would be worth $3K tops.

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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2011, 02:43:29 pm »
My 2 cents worth......

This is for an RM465, as it was my first resto and I got carried away a bit with sourcing as much NOS / new parts as possible and postage killed me as I ordered in 5-6 small lots instead of one big one from the USA. With experience I probably could have saved $500 - $1000 over the project

At the end of the day she looks awesome and she's mine!

Base bike from US $2,100 - I paid overs as the bike was not worth this amount and knowing what I do now would probably pay only $1500 at most
Import permit $50
Shipping $400
Port charges, quarantine and GST $1,447
Sand blast frame and powdercoat $209
Various parts, freight and bead blasting $2,600
Rebore & porting $160
PPR paints $200
Suspension rebuilt $1000 (approx)

All up approx $8,200K and I have had a ball spending every cent!

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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2011, 05:05:08 pm »
With experience I probably could have saved $500 - $1000 over the project
At the end of the day she looks awesome and she's mine!

Yeah building using a lot of NOS parts adds a whole different pricing level, but like you say a bit of experience in where to go for NOS and where to use replica or after market parts helps. Plus good source of cheap freight.

I have TM400 on the slab at the moment
good running motor $150
very clean frame  $80 + 120 powder and paint
plastics, seat cover and cables $350
wheels and axles $80
new spokes $135
CDI and Carb $0 came with motor
freight $400
GMC Pipe $450
Tyres $200
seat $80
Bars and control $75
TM400 load of fastenings, engine mounts and wheel bearings $200

where we at the moment, roughly North of a couple of grand plus change but for that it will be pretty clean and better than starting with $2000 core bike where you would throw away most of it anyway.









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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2011, 07:15:32 pm »
I'd agree if you can get your hands on the parts it can be cheaper than buying a complete bike building a rm250a at the moment that way. ;)
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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2011, 08:01:14 pm »
For me it's a total rebuild from ground up. It may take me  6 months or a year ( some a great deal longer  ???)   
Most of mine cost me more than I had intended $$ wise and to me it's a form of relaxation.   I don't drink ...alcohol or smoke..... but I am partial to a cup of tea :)   there's a saving straight away ;D 
I also get a great deal of satisfaction standing back enjoying my labour of love when they are completed.
 

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« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2011, 11:27:22 am »
For me it's a total rebuild from ground up. It may take me  6 months or a year ( some a great deal longer  ???)   
Most of mine cost me more than I had intended $$ wise and to me it's a form of relaxation.   I don't drink ...alcohol or smoke..... but I am partial to a cup of tea :)   there's a saving straight away ;D 
I also get a great deal of satisfaction standing back enjoying my labour of love when they are completed.
 

I think you've hit the nail on the head, no matter what it ends up costing it's the end result that counts to those who have done the task!!
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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2011, 11:36:11 am »
Nathan - nothing wrong with your logic there - I however enjoy making mine as super pretty as possible as well as riding them (for that midpack finish if I am lucky) - it's all part of the allure - not just having a bike and racing it but I enjoy looking after mine also.
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Re: Resto / Build Costs
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2011, 12:34:33 pm »
Yes blinging a bike is good for some but come on a complete wardrobe change for each race But none for the bike.  Who you really blinging there oh chunky one!!!
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