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Re: Dirt track weapon....well sort of..
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2008, 05:02:54 pm »
Yes this is just for fun and an initial run at DT. If I can get it going good as stock and see how she goes then maybe I can think about some go fast(er) mods but they are probably not worth the trouble on a little 185. So the plan is to have fun on the 185, learn lots and then maybe fix up my PE250 if things get serious.... ;)
have gone down a tooth to 11 on the front and stock 39 rear as I can't see myself getting near 5th gear on the ACT circuit...then again never done it so time will tell....

Currently has the stock plug ....  BP7ES. Should I be going to an 8ES. Is a 9ES gonna be too cold????    ???




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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2008, 06:24:09 pm »
ya sound pretty switched on Greg, probably haven't told you anything you don't already know but maybe take a couple of plugs and have a looky as the day progresses, an 8 should be fine if they come with a 7 as standard. The BP7ES has protruding electrode from memory and is not the correct plug. the plug should is a plain B7ES or B8ES. Running at top end may require dropping the needle clip a notch. Better to have it a little rich and fluffy down low rather than lean out up top and go bang  :o but then  :-\ I guess most traily's do come pretty rich and fluffly from the factory though so maybe just ride and see is the best advice  :)
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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2008, 06:32:19 pm »
yeh i thought the same re the projection plug but both Mr haynes and Mr NGK specify the BP for the later model TS185s....but it would probably do ok on the 'normal' plugs i imagine....and cheaper too!!     ;)

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Re: Dirt track weapon....well sort of..
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2008, 08:18:02 pm »
Your a cheeky one Doc ;D
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Re: Dirt track weapon....well sort of..
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2008, 08:32:15 pm »
what should be the top speed on a ER model?

my specs for my 1980 model say BP7ES. are you saying its wrong? why? i know some models had the BP and some had the B.

i want to see if i can fit a 30 or 32 mm RM 100/125 N/T carby but i got find out the width and height first to see if it will fit. i dont think aftermarket 32mm mikunis fit.

i got to fix my bottom end noise first. Greg does your trans/clutch make a rattly sort of noise at low revs that goes away with the clutch pullled in?

i replaced the bearing behind the clutch that has the pressed in gear. it was a reallly tight fit and i cant see it ever slipping. i only used a SKF but since ive got it apart im gonna fit a new suzuki bearing. i will also take out my right side crank bearing as im not sure it has the proper clearance. i think it should be a C3 spec, so to be safe i will get a genuine suzuki bearing there too.

thing that has me confused is the arrangment of the washers and the flat needle rolller bearing on the input shaft. all my manuals and parts book show different things.

has any one got a good clutch basket? mine is loose in the rubbers so im wondering if thats the cause of my noise.

13 T on the front is as big as you can go with a O or X ring chain.

theres no way i would run anything other than the stock air box and aftermarket filter. too much dust gets in with out a proper air box.

this has got me enthused to get mine back together, i just gotta get a bit more time. it will put my PE's on hold though, thats the only bad point
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Re: Dirt track weapon....well sort of..
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2008, 08:58:35 pm »
Naaah no clutch rattle at all...matter of fact the clutch feels really good     :-\  ....which is pretty amazing really as i suspect the bike had been sitting collecting mouse droppings, dust and crap for a long while before I got it!!! Surprised that the clutch plates were not bonded either...hmmm. Fresh oil and it seems happy so far.....(only had 200ml of oil in it but what came out was pretty good....now has the full 700ml of good stuff). Have not really given it a good go yet so will find out at DT practice on March 2nd how things will go.    ;)
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« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2008, 03:48:14 pm »
Well just about all set. It was running a bit lean.....book says 1.25 turns out for the air screw but i am finding .75-1 about right...probably due to some wear in the carby maybe (?????). Seems happy to be a bit rich...Anyway she hoons around the yard ok!!    ::)
Here's the latest piccy...gotta remove the side stand and loosen tension on the chain a bit and lube...   :)





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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2008, 04:03:49 pm »
Lozza..me cheeky? not on your life!!..well..maybe just a little!  ;)

not sure what the manual says for the plug Leith as I've never had one but all my TS'ers up to the 84 model all had a good ol' B7 or B8 fitted. I don't think it would really matter but I'll stick to them. The clutch basket I believe is the same item on all TS185's from '71 on.

Greg, very interested to hear how it goes on March 2nd  ;)
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Re: Dirt track weapon....well sort of..
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2008, 08:40:39 am »
Quote from: GregACT on February 19, 2008, 05:02:54 pm
fix up my PE250 if things get serious.... ;)
Go on and fix up the PE. Then you can race me and my IT250D.
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Re: Dirt track weapon....well sort of..
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2008, 12:32:14 pm »
Quote from: mboddy on February 23, 2008, 08:40:39 am
Go on and fix up the PE. Then you can race me and my IT250D.

As one of the few people who knows both of you, I can confiently say that you're way crazier than Greg! :)
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« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2008, 07:03:37 pm »
Hahahaha....yeh well the PE is next if I can get around the track on the little 185 OK without injurin meself!!!   :D
I know you have a LOT more experience than me Mark so take it easy OK??    ;)
I did decide that dirt track was going to be a lot more fun (and more doable and closer to home) than the pcra dream I gave up on a few years back.

Also..my order arrived today from Perth (of all places)....MDS RC4 helmet, Oneal top and Fox socks for a good price and with free shipping!! All internet specials from Motorcyclemart, who I can say did a good job, got the order right, and shipped it in good time (and I have no interest in the site or the shop).   ;D

So, got bike, got gear.....lookin forward to this Sunday!!    :o

Nathan - sorry missed your call...got it today...oops..    :-[   Are you coming out for a bash this Sunday???

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Re: Dirt track weapon....well sort of..
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2008, 07:33:49 pm »
Hmmm... OK, I wasn't going to ride the TM again till I'd finished working it for more go, but maybe I'll bring it out Sunday for a bit of ride around and to say G'day.

Mind you, I have all the go-fast bits on their way so the TM "CR-killer" isn't far off either!!
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2008, 08:22:05 pm »
OK sounds great...I'll start a new thread and see if we can get an old school dirt track practice bash happenin!!!    ;D

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« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2008, 08:26:09 pm »
I'll come out on the TDR even if I haven't got the IT going.
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« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2008, 06:57:22 am »
Hi Graeme, good your coming on sunday, on the TM, I will have to watch out for those good bits on the TM, cant have a yellow one going past a silver one!!!
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