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Offline Iain Cameron

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allen bolt in forks ???
« on: April 23, 2011, 02:16:55 pm »
Hi guys how the bloody hell do you get the allen bolt out of early Yamaha forks ? is there a tool to hold the inside ? starting to get pissed off . regards Iain
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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 02:26:11 pm »
No guarantees but, heat gun, long broom handle stuck down the guts, downward pressure and a rattle gun ;).   

Or, with the forks assembled, downward pressure against spring and a rattle gun.

 

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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2011, 02:37:27 pm »
Hi mx250 tried that no go
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2011, 04:02:44 pm »
I had to make a tool to get the 125x forks apart, the broom handle trick didn't work on them either. I'll take a pic later and post it up. All you need is 12mm rod and a welder
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2011, 04:08:27 pm »
Hi mx250 tried that no go
Some bastards has used loctite ::). But then it could be just old age and gunk ::).

Using the correct holding tool is the go. I've made several in the past but can't remember the details. Looks like Mainline is your 'go to' man 8). Go luck :).

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2011, 04:34:57 pm »
No go Wasp they turn easily so drilling is out . Mainline your idea sounds the way to go. Iain
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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2011, 04:58:07 pm »
What are the forks off?  The tools are different sizes depending on how big the forks are.  If they are 43mm I will take a picture of the one I made and measure it for you.  Piece of cake  ;)
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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2011, 05:25:55 pm »
The early ones don't have an inside hex. Some have a pair of outside flats.
The last ones I did had 10mm between flats. I stuck some 1mm shim stock inside a 12mm 6 point hex socket.
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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2011, 06:46:40 pm »
Hi mx250 tried that no go
Some bastards has used loctite ::). But then it could be just old age and gunk ::).

Using the correct holding tool is the go. I've made several in the past but can't remember the details. Looks like Mainline is your 'go to' man 8). Go luck :).

Finally, I'm a 'go-to' man, all these years I've waited........

What are the forks off?  The tools are different sizes depending on how big the forks are.  If they are 43mm I will take a picture of the one I made and measure it for you.  Piece of cake  ;)

Rack off Barsby, I'm the 'go to' man around here ;D



Mark (mboddy) is onto it, the couple of earlier yamaha forks I've pulled apart don't have an internal hex like the later YZ's RM's etc

I made this Doobrey(tm) up, and after a little bit of touching up with a grinder it worked a treat. Sorry about the quality, the camera battery was flat, so I had to use the mobile.



Basically, it's a length of 12mm rod (i had an offcut of threaded so that's what I used) with a couple of tabs welded on the sides. I cleaned up the outside edges with a grinder to stop them scraping the inside of the fork leg. I also had to square off the inside edges of the tabs till they locked onto the doodad at the bottom of the fork leg.

Maybe if Mark is thinking they were 10mm apart you should start with 10mm rod go from there. The X forks needed 12mm + between the tabs before it'd lock on. I suppose it depends on the vintage of fork we're talking about.

Hope this helps, if not, Barsby is your new 'go-to' man ;D

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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2011, 07:35:19 pm »
Thanks go to guys the forks are of a mx250 73/74 so I'll start at 10mm with some meat to grind if needed . sorry YZ250H 43mm tubes way oversize . thanks all . Mark are you going to the nats in sept?
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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2011, 07:40:54 pm »
Mark are you going to the nats in sept?
Unfortunately no. I am still collecting parts to build my YZ250D.
Hopefully VMX Plastics will finish their tanks and side covers soon.
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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 07:49:47 pm »
They are out . The flats on the inside are 12mm but had been rounded off by previous owners . Ended up using a 13mm socket driven on with a nockometer ,once out cleaned up with wire brush . I think the fork oil is original 73 mix [ treakle ] Anyway they are appart now thanks all for your help . Wasp do you referbish old yamaha thermal flow shocks ?   regards Iain
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Re: allen bolt in forks ???
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 12:04:45 am »
Hi Wasp no do not treasure them just like to keep thermal flow image , Any new shocks that look similar to them ? Thank you Iain
Yamaha tragic ; dt1, rt1, dt2, rt2, dt2mx , rt2mx , mx250, mx360,sc500, 74dt125, yzx125, yzc250, yzc400, yzd250, yzd400, yzh250, yzh80 , dt100 , xr75 ko xr80 03 , it175 82 . Not a member of any club