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Offline crash n bern

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Rickman/Zundap frame
« on: November 02, 2010, 11:21:25 am »
I picked up a Rickman frame for a Zundap 125. It came with tank and seat/tailpiece.  The seat has the zipper in it to store your tools in.  That's what cinched the deal for me because I got all nostalgic remembering a test I read on the 125 Rickman Zundap ISDT model when I was 12.

Anyway, turning it back into an original Rickman/Zundap is not in my real interest as it would just be easier/cheaper to buy a complete one.  So I need to work out my best options for engine and rolling gear.  I have searched here and found a few different motors that will fit.  I have a TS185 and a Hodaka 100 that I could use as donor bikes but I hate to pull apart a bike to build another and have left over bits.

Best option is probably to fit a DT175 motor as the stock pipe seems to be an easy fit. Not to mention cheap and reliable.  But I'm kinda liking the idea of an Ossa motor.

I recently passed up a Rotax 250 motor out of a SWM and of course put the contact number through the wash.  But the Rotax motor had a massively wide cylinder that wouldn't look out of place on a 500, and might be a bit to big for the frame.

I have a 76 maico 250 motor in the shed, but that kind of messes up the year models as the frame is 73.  Although I don't plan to race it, I would prefer it to be period correct for it to have any value.

I know that with some backyard boilermaking you could pretty much shoehorn anything into it.  I would however prefer an easy fit with something that wasn't sardined in there with the tank rubbing on the head etc.  So 125 or 175 may be the best option.  I've probably answered my own questions but was just wondering if anyone had any feedback.

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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2010, 12:10:57 pm »
I'm accumulating parts to build a similar product. I originally intended to fit a Maico 250 engine and actually mocked it up and found that it'd be a piece of piss swap. However, because of a change in direction driven by the completion of my Cheney RT1, importing of a Hindall framed DT1 and the assembly of parts to eventually build an Antig DT1 dirt track slider, it seems that it's now a no brainer to fit a DT1/RT1 engine to the little Rickman.


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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2010, 12:11:43 pm »
I've seen a number of different engines fitted to the little Rickman frame including Bultaco, Honda SL125, BSA C15, Yamaha 250 and 360 and Maico. The actual cradle is larger than the Rickman Montesa frame which makes it a better swap candidate.
I've been saying that these bikes are the best kept secret in 'special' building. Below are a few shots from my files including the mock up of the square barrel Maico swap.

My mate Ben's C15 BSA powered Rickman he's building for his dad.

mock up of the Maico engine in the frame...note specially made Mk3 style bodywork from my mate Ben in the UK.

Square barrel mock up

Ducati 250 engine with Norton hydrolastic engine mounts

RT1 360 Yamaha fitted in OK by the looks.

Latish water cooled CR125 Honda engine. Frame converted to flat track looks right.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2010, 12:17:10 pm by firko »

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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2010, 12:14:51 pm »
i think i have forks and tripples for the rickman.need rickman/reh wheel as the forks have a small alloy part that fits into front wheel brake plate
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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2010, 12:31:57 pm »
I've just been given what I believe to be a complete Zundapp metisse (basket case) will pick it up and see next week
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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2010, 01:47:50 pm »
I forgot the blingiest of them all AJs 'Ugly Betty'

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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2010, 03:00:42 pm »
jimglau     probably is REH brake plate if has fork groove-used one on my BSA b44 GP
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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2010, 03:41:35 pm »
Thanks for all  the pic's Firko.  I need a petrol cap for it and they don't look too generic as the locking tab slots are on the outside of the tank hole rather than inside like most other.  There's a used one on ebay but they want $30 plus $14 shipping.

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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 03:38:45 pm »
this is what I got given today...  Help!!!lol will end up an MX



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1979 Husqvarna WR250
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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2010, 04:21:00 pm »
I like the clutch throw out mod on the RT1 firko! Cheers pancho
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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2010, 05:59:38 pm »
this is what I got given today... 
Given?? :o :o 8)

Lucky boy  :D

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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2010, 07:02:42 pm »
maybe my luck has changed finally!!
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1979 Husqvarna WR250
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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2010, 08:39:26 pm »
How I go green with envy every time I see that Rickman SL125..... A treasure!!!!:D
Believe I could just about squeeze a CB500 4 in the one with the Ducati 250... ;) Cheers Tim754
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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2010, 10:28:27 pm »
Sweet little gift Tossa. What engine are you putting in there? If you ever decide to sell it I'd love a shot at it.

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Re: Rickman/Zundap frame
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2010, 11:41:00 pm »
would you believe your the second offer I've had already.  I would like to stick another zundapp in it but will wait until i pull everything apart and have a good look at the frame etc.  Where did you get the plastics for yours mark.  Would like to keep it as a 125, any suggestions.  Any donor motors available !!lol
1973 Rickman Zundapp Metisse, to rebuild
1979 Husqvarna WR250
1974 Husqvarna MAG CR250