Retro Dirt Bike Australia - For All Your Pre 90/95/00 Needs

[firko]

Dear O dear......this ain't going to help the sport one iota. Sorry, but I think this is a retrograde step and will only encourage more them and us argy bargy.

[Graeme M]

Help the sport? It's not meant to help the sport.

It's meant to provide a forum for people who want to talk about old dirtbikes that don't fit the established VMX parameters. Once it gets on its feet, the old school guys won't even know it exists. You guys won't go there, and more than likely we'll see the end of the Pre 90/95 debates here on OzVMX.

You surely don't think that because there is such a thing as VMX and it ends in 1985, anyone who wants to restore, ride, or admire the bikes, riders and spirit of the post 1985 period isn't allowed to?

[VMX247]

Sorry, but I think this is a retrograde step and will only encourage more them and us argy bargy.

where Firko on this forum or as a whole ??
cheers

[LWC82PE]

I reckon i will still call 85-89 bikes 'vintage' or 'old'but i wont call 90-94 bikes 'vintage'
Its gonna be a tough one, i cant think of any other suitable name other than 'retro' the term 'vintage' is just already in everyones blood.
What do they call cars that were built in the mid-late 80's? classics?
I also dont like the 'divide' that Firko has pointed out, we should all be united as one , but what do you do, so many people tryed to disrupt Graemes thread last week to try and make the issue go away.
I like to think of VMX as eras. We had the 50's era, 60's era, the 70's era and finally the 80's era.

[Graeme M]

Sorry, my reply sounds too sharp. What I am saying is that there ARE people who rode and raced in the late 80s and early 90s who are now at the stage in life where they have that same interest in looking back as the rest of us. When vintage came into being in the early 90s, 1970-75 was about 20 years in the past. Well, 20 years ago now is 1990. So, it's not hard to imagine that this same interest occurs to people in 2010 as much as it did in 1990.

It was made very clear, derogatorily so in some cases, that many vintage fans can't accept the idea that we should formalise Pre 90/95 as part of the 'vintage' scene, notwithstanding the efforts of clubs like VIPER etc. OK, that's fine.

But that means that those younger guys who might want to buy a 1989 bike, or who have one and want to find parts for it, or who'd like to discuss races/events that stand out in their memories, aren't welcome to do so on OzVMX.

Well, that's fine too.

Hence this new site. It isn't about promoting a new race class, a race series, changes to the MoMS or anything. It's just meant to give the younger guys amongst us somewhere to hang out and talk about THEIR past.

How's that sound?

[LWC82PE]

Sounds good, well said.

[Nathan S]

Dear O dear......this ain't going to help the sport one iota. Sorry, but I think this is a retrograde step and will only encourage more them and us argy bargy.

Oh dear. I think you'll find that all of the pre-90 advocates were all about holding hands and singing kumbaya around the campfire. It was, however, made very clear that significant portions of the established VMX community were never going to accept pre-90 into the fold.

If there's "us and them", then its not from the later era guys.

This way avoids trying to mix oil and water.

Plus what Graeme said.

[Rossvickicampbell]

well bugger me Nathan - the squeaky wheel gets the most oil - maybe I will start a campaign so we can have age class racing -hang on we do that now 

Seriously guys - hope it goes well - I can't see it hurting

Nothing is cast in stone - so let's give it a try.

Now -where did I see that 1989 Honda CR500!!!!!!!

[firko]

I had a reply here that might have been seen as negative and argumentative but that wasn't my intention so I pulled it. I hope the new forum works well in uniting the younger old bike enthusiasts. I still think that .......nah, what's the point.

[Graeme M]

C'mon Firko, she'll be right. Things like the IT Forum which cover more than just vintage ITs haven't brought the world tumbling down and I doubt this will either.

Tho I was a bit concerned the other day when I noticed Nathan weighs the same as a duck!

[All Things 414]

If people outside of the VMX community (can I still call it that?) weren't confused before, they certainly will be now.......

[mainline]

C'mon Firko, she'll be right. Things like the IT Forum which cover more than just vintage ITs haven't brought the world tumbling down and I doubt this will either.

Tho I was a bit concerned the other day when I noticed Nathan weighs the same as a duck!

  let's see if he floats then!

[Graeme M]

I know you speak in tongues Ross... but what? Explain that one for me.

[All Things 414]

I don't know if i can. I'm totally confused as to to what's Vintage, Classic and Retro. Sorry. I know when I try to explain to 'outsiders' the different periods and classes that their eyes glaze over a little sometimes. I just think trying to explain this new thing (modern retro or whatever it is) is really gunna do a number on 'em......

[Graeme M]

I guess though you don't have to.

Vintage is Vintage.

This isn't a new class, it's just somewhere for guys to talk about old bikes that AREN'T vintage. That's my point. It's pretty clear that no-one wants vintage muddied by Pre 90/95 just yet even though some clubs will run events for those bikes. I suppose in time things may change. But the new site is just a forum, no more. And it should take a lot of the Pre 90/95 heat out of OzVMX with any luck.

So, if you want to get some info about your 88 YZ250 or 94 Super Tenere or your 98 XR400, Retro Dirt Bike is a good place to start.

But if you want to talk vintage, it's OzVMX. And if you want to race Vintage, well, you can! Just not on that 98 XR400...