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Offline evo550

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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2010, 05:51:42 pm »
Hope you didn't pay too much for the swingarm...looks like it's bent just behing the shock mount ;)

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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 05:58:39 pm »
Hope you didn't pay too much for the swingarm...looks like it's bent just behing the shock mount ;)

I reckon I have put it on the wrong way up, it is cooler upside down, looks like MotoGP racer ;D
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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 06:34:55 pm »
Cept it's not carbon fibre  ;)

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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2010, 11:30:17 am »
Cept it's not carbon fibre  ;)

no but the muffler is.

Not sure I have optomised the rear wheel travel yet, currently has 16" shocks. I tried 17 1/2" but too long
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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2010, 04:31:31 pm »

Pipe is called 3 Cone, seems really well made.

But not designed and looks to be off an 80cc engine. What looks to be a 550-600mm tuned length don't expect any mid range power.
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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2010, 06:48:34 pm »

Pipe is called 3 Cone, seems really well made.

But not designed and looks to be off an 80cc engine. What looks to be a 550-600mm tuned length don't expect any mid range power.

Yeah, I thought it looked small as well, bu my eyes slowly drifted back to the bent swingarm.

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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2010, 10:37:43 pm »


But not designed and looks to be off an 80cc engine. What looks to be a 550-600mm tuned length don't expect any mid range power.
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didn't realise 125s had any mid range power
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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2010, 10:53:27 pm »
If take the time to get pipe/ignition/ports right 125's have  plenty enough.
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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2010, 05:47:02 pm »
Mark,
Had the same issue mounting the muffler on my 125C. What i did was use a peice of 25mm diameter alloy round bar. I sunk a allen head bolt into one side of the peice and on the opposing side drilled and tapped a thread to hold the muffler. Essentially it moved the mounting bolt up 20mm and allowed the muffler to sit strait. To most it just looks like a spacer.



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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2010, 05:56:50 pm »
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Hey Bahnsy, have you got an opinion of the No-Dive?

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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2010, 06:36:06 pm »
My  "C" also points down.....must be standard issue

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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2010, 07:05:54 pm »
This bike started as a tatty roller that was payment from Snowy for delivering a bike from the Latrobe Valley in VIC to his abode in the South Central Highlands of NSW. Mark had picked the bike up as part of a deceased estate or something similar with some history that the bike was an ex Suzuki shop race bike where the engine had been removed along with its ancillary components. The No-Dive must have been fitted back in the day, I guess when they were quiet popular in the late seventies. The work performed to modify the parts was of a high standard. Of the very few No-Dives that I have seen fitted they usually hack the backing plate retaining lug from the fork tube with a hacksaw and maybe tidy it up with a file. This one had been machined down with a lathe and the mods to the backing plate were what you would expect ex factory.

As the bike had the system already fitted, and it is costly and difficult to convert back to a normal brake system, I have only known the bike with it fitted. Back to back between the 250C that I have there is a distinct difference in the way that the bike behaves under braking. Personally I find it o/k but there are other ways to improve the suspension performance without having to fit a No-Dive, e.g. PD Valves.

In an era before there were shim stacks to control the rate of fork compression under braking, the No-Dive had sound engineering principles and there is no doubt that some rider/bike combinations it worked well, I guess that Gally is such an example. On the other hand, I have spoken with Mike Landman and was never a fan of it, yet the bikes were basically the same. I no longer race the bike as the 84 125 has taken it’s place so it’s relegated to events like CD and BBB and if nothing else is a great conversation piece.
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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2010, 07:57:24 pm »
Thanks Bahnsy. I find it interesting how peoples living through the same period can get different impressions. I remember a bit of hoopla about No-Dives when they first came out but I never thought they became even the least bit popular. In fact I can only remember Gally using it and then only for a short time. I know the theory and I've always wanted to try one just for curiosity :P.

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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2010, 11:03:42 pm »
I had a NOS No-Dive kit for a Yamaha YZG (I think that I found in a bargain bin at Ian Palmer Motorcycles in Penrith and purchased for $10. I condidered adapting it to my Maico Magnum 400 after I rode my mates YZ fitted with one on Dirt Track at Nepean and found it pretty good once I got used to it. Unfortunately I sold the bike before I had a chance to try it and then sold the No-Dive on eBay to a guy in Belgium called Geboers for crazy money.

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Re: Swingarm of the gods 2
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2010, 11:24:24 pm »
Geoff Ballard used one (no-dive) on a Maico in the early 80's. Ive seen a Photo in ADB
Here was one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180433972379&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123
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