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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2010, 09:57:41 PM »
Hi guys,
           i have just got hold of a November 1984 edition of Trail & Track and it shows a picture of a KTM 80, watercooled with conventional forks and states that Bert Flood was expecting them for March 1985 at a cost of $1700.

It has a Pro Lever sticker on the swingarm but you can`t see what type of shock it has, they were released at the 1984 Colonge Motor show.  Peter.
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 10:16:31 PM »
Thats very interesting. Anychance i can see that article of a shot of the cover? If i see the cover i migth know if i have that magazine. Everywhere up until now i could only find out the first model was a 86 but i cant see that they had them released that far in advance at late 84/early 85 so perhapse there was a 85 model? im going to have to try do some more research i think.
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2010, 10:24:52 PM »
I will take a photo of the cover and email it to you tomorrow, the cover has a 1985 Honda CR250RF doing a jump as the main picture. November 1984 edition.    Peter.
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2010, 10:28:08 PM »
Ok thanks
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 08:31:30 AM »
85 was the first model as I said earlier. The rear shock was WP forks were Mazochies. F/disc very light very fast & $350 more than the YZ. The bike didnt change much until ie was droped. o also it run a huge carb for an 80cc (actually 76cc). I think it was a 34mm Delorto.

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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2010, 03:00:48 PM »
SWEET :)
Go like a stabbed rat I rekon. :)
« Last Edit: June 29, 2010, 03:05:05 PM by Mike52 »
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2010, 05:31:13 PM »
Well, i spent ages last night looking through my mags and i found that same article you have just posted. Its is in ADB labeled feb 85. I have never seen a KTM 80 like that before. Now heres the interesting thing. That one is called a 80 LC and the later ones are a 80MX and there was also a 85 CC version and one called a 'pro mini' or something. Around 87 they had 2 models, i think one was just big wheels and an extra 5cc. I also found in Trail and Track September 85 there is a test on one and it says that Bert Flood got the first one in Australia and T&T were the first to look at it. Now its not clear if this bike is a 85 or 86 model but they appear to be saying its the first 80 brought specially to Australia by Bert Flood who air freighted it in and that another 15 were comming in the first shipment and then 80 after that. The photo above shows the pipe on the left side and i reckon the radiator must be on the right side but on the test bike in T&T, it looks a lot different. I cant see whats writen on the seat but on the tank shroud is 80MX and the pipe is on the right side and the radiator on the left side. So the questions are, is the photo above of a 85 model that didnt come to Australia or is it a prototype 85 model? And is the one that T&T tested an early 86 model that came out september/october 85 or is it actually an 85 model that were really late to arrive almost at the end of 1985, and is the bike in T&T that is tested actually an 85 but what they production ones ended up looking like instead of the photo above?. I dont really know but i want to try and find more photos/info on the bike shown above and info on the 85 model.
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2010, 05:54:35 PM »
If you notice my photo the bike I am riding is a 1980-81 KTM 125 LC.
I have been looking for a photo of one of these and it seems that they don,t exist.
So what am I riding?
I know of 2 in Aus and they are both in the Enduro photo,s by IT400c in the foto forum. :)
Both bikes came out of a dealer in Toowoomba. :P
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2010, 06:18:25 PM »
I reckon i might have a photo of a 81 KTM 125 Lc. My friend in USA has a 82 125 LC and that is a rare one too. We can only find 2 photos of one on the web. I am very sure i a have a magazine article on a 81 125 Lc too in ADB. There is an italian website with a lot of 80's KTM photos but i couldnt find any 80's on there. Will find you the link later.
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2010, 06:20:43 PM »
Mite Be first of model  ??? ???
Sorta trial thing  ???

 Check the seat height on that 80.
Not much lower than my 125. :o
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2010, 06:35:05 PM »
http://web.tiscali.it/ktm70pages/

Yeah in the test in T&T they mentioned that they were not sure if the 80 bottom end was going to be the 125 bottom end but instead it ended up being specifically designed for the 80. Will be interesting to also see what billetYZ found yeseterday and the photo at the Cologne motor show.
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2010, 06:58:03 PM »
Just sent a couple of photos to you, let me know if they came thru ok. Peter.
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2010, 07:36:32 PM »
Yep i got it thanks. I knew i didnt have that issue as soon as i saw the cover. Same bike in above pic. Its says they expected them in March but in the september 85 ADB they say that got the first KTM 80 the day before the article was done. Im guessing the article/test was done in August sometime. And the bike looks totally different to the one that says 80LC on the seat. I wonder if that is just a prototype one?

This is the one i got the test on



Just found this too  :)



Mike

there is an article on an early 125 LC here

http://www.tumotoverde.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=125&func=view&id=43511&catid=24
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2010, 08:20:40 PM »
That bottom photo is exactly the same bike in Trail & Track, the 86 model you show sure is a lot different to the bottom shot. Peter.
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Re: KTM 80
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2010, 08:37:37 PM »
Yeah i can see that. The website i found the photo above said it was a 84 but im sure thats a mistake. I begining to think there was an 85 model that looked like the one above but i cant find any more pics/articles/brochures on it and so far can only find the 'bike show' type photos. I reckon they must be extremely rare as i can only seem to find the ones with the radiator on the left which seem to be the 86 onwards models.
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