Project RM175F

[suzuki43]

Ahh Group Hug guys xx

Bon Voyage Marc.

[frostype400]

I know where there is a 84 pe175 frame aswell.

[monaro308]

Back from real work.
Pics...more pics.





Of course that radiator won't be there,but something in the shape of that will be.

Michael i also thought about a 12V set-up but seeing that i don't even ride my WR450 in the dark,i can't
see the extra work i need at the moment (12v would be nice) and it would be good to see your  project on here.
Are you selling that PE '84 frame? My PE '83 frame needs repairs around the kickstand area so i may/will be interested.
Doc i thought about a matching loop..but i think the pipe kills that idea.
Also i haven't forgotten your question about my RM100X frame.
Thats all i have for now,so its back to re-assembling to get it mobile and do more work and i might be able to fire it up in the next week.Then it gets torn down again for a clean-up etc etc.
I haven't even checked if the kickstart fits in there yet  
Cheers..Mario

[frostype400]

Hi Mario, no I don't have the frame I bought the t/trees off it for my project but I do have a good PE 175z-e muffler if you need one I haven't been able to find one a floater to put it on.

I will post my project when I get it out the roof probably this weekend you know you could put a disc front end no probs on yours with my 400 I couldn't use many other trees becuase of them hitting the tank but a mate told me that pe 175z-e had 38mm insted of 36mm so I could use 38mm ts forks.

[monaro308]

Michael that muffler may come in handy.The one that came with my PE had a cut and shut done to it and no doubt the one i have on the RM175 is gonna be loud and i may keep the one you have for the PE.
I have the front end off an '84 RM...triples and 43mm forks which fit the PE front wheel.I know the steering stem shaft is different but i haven't checked the tank clearance now that you mention it!
The TS idea sounds good 

Cheers....Mario

[holeshot buddy]

you could always turbo it and put a intercooler
where the radiator is

i would try a rm 100/125 air cooled fuel tank it should go straight on
i fitted a rm500 tank on mine without much mods
then you can piss of radiatior shrouds and safety seat can be
easily modded to fit air cooled tank

[floberts]

I will post my project when I get it out the roof probably this weekend you know you could put a disc front end no probs on yours with my 400 I couldn't use many other trees becuase of them hitting the tank but a mate told me that pe 175z-e had 38mm insted of 36mm so I could use 38mm ts forks.

Is this the easiest way to put a disc front on a PE175Z? The whole front end off a TS?

Which year model TS250 will fit?

[monaro308]

Holeshot i have all that stuff,check out the pics in my "make me a super model" thread a page or 2 back.
All easily changed if i move the battery.
I'll stay with what i have for now and if the shrouds survive in the scrub then it's all good.
I was thinking of a Nitrous bottle in there...could double as the extra fuel tank

Floberts i wouldn't mind knowing that answer too.

When i get a chance i'll dummy up the RM125E-F front end on the PE to see if the triples hit the tank(which i reckon they will) which will give another option (the 85 RM125 has disc and the 84 has twin leading shoes)but i've heard the 84 had a great front brake(some say too strong) and the 85 was so so with the single piston caliper.
I'll get back to you on that.
cheers...mario

[frostype400]

The TS front end suited my 400 length wise it was just right but with some longer fork caps on them it will give me a bit of play either way but I am not sure of the seat hight of the pe175z-e I am tipping the 38mm TS forks would go but might have to come through the triples a bit more any one got a length of the stock shocks and I will tell you if the ts will work straight up on the 175.

The muffler I haven't been able to use looks a good one to it is in my shed somewhere if you have anything 400 let me know I think that it may be the only 175 stuff I have but I am not sure.

[BAHNZY]

I dropped a 84-RM125 43mm drum front end into my 1980 PE250, real simple swap. Pressed out the steerer tube from the RM lower clamp and same on the PE lower. Machined about 5 mmm of the bottom of the PE steerer then re-machined the groove for the circlip back in and pressed the newly modified steerer tube into the RM lower clamp then re-used all the old bearings and hardware.
This was done because;
- The 84 RM steering tube is way to long to use in the PE.
- The PE tube had to be machined down because there is about a 5mm variation in the lower tripple clamp thickness.
I then used the original PE wheel and brake plate, and machined up a couple of spacers for the front wheel. The trap here is that the brake cable comes out at a crazy angle as the spigot to locate the backing plate for the brake is in a different location than the PE. The fix for this was to use a 1982 RM250 front brake cable.

The end result is a front end that looks like it is meant to be there. In fact most people dont even pic the mod. The plus side is that i have a 80 PE250 with a 43mm front end, Old School Ohlins piggy backs and it rides as good, if not better then anything from that era.

[floberts]

The fork leg length of the 175Z is 1030 mm (not including the fork cap)

From the centre of the axle to the top is 912 mm.

Spacing between the triple clamp centres is 180 mm.

Does this all line up Frosty?

[LWC82PE]

TS forks  are shorter/have less travel than the PE forks. You need to change the TS inner fork tubes and/or damper rods to 1979/1980 RM  or 82-84 PE 175 parts to give correct travel for PE. TS200 or 85 RM front end is a lot easier conversion.

[frostype400]

It must be must be ts200 I am using that is the only thing though finding a set I will measure the forks again tommorow thanks Michael.

[LWC82PE]

Ages ago Doc gave me the measurements for ts250 forks and they were shorter than the 250/400 forks. The sliders are longer aswell.

[monaro308]

Continued.......
Had a bit of a bludge this weekend.
The correct ('85) shocker arrived from the US.....damn hard to find them being the only year for that shock.
After firing an email to the owner asking in what condition was the shocker and shaft...his reply...it is in usable condition 
I pulled it apart.....worn shaft bush,blown seal,bugger all oil,bladder leaking past the cap.
I was gonna reply back to ask "which part of the shock is usable?"
Anyway at least the body,resi and shaft are good and i aint sending it back knowing how hard it is to find one.
I had all the parts here when i ordered parts for the PE and the other mystery RM shock.
Cleaned it all up,re-bushed,re-sealed and put i all together yesterday and it now sits at the right height that it should be.
I re-assembled the bike again to continue with all the little odds and ends.
It is such an easy bike to work on.
I also picked up an TM34SS carby for $20.00 and changed the main jet to a 250,pilot to 25 as per PE175.
I will have to cross reference the jet needle and needle jet specs as the VM parts differ to the flatslide.
I'll keep the RM ones in until its time to sort it out.
I did a general clean up of the plastics and laid some black contact on the side covers.
I also had a play with home printer and made up these stickers on "windows paint",reversed the emblems and then printed on the back of the black contact and hand cut them.
It's only just to see what i can come up with and then maybe just buy the original decals when its all done.


After all the hoo ha about the downtube likes and dislikes,with everything just about on the bike now, i can honestly say....I LIKE IT the bonus is that i can fit a centre port or an angled port if i want

Thats it for another weekend...enjoy