The Nats

[Davey Crocket]

Can someone tell me why there is 3 classes for sidecars and NO pre 75 age group racing?.....Conondale had 8? sidecars.

[albrid-3]

Well, the only thing l will say, this will be my last year racing the Aust vintage Titles here in Victoria, and other states when a good fun thing is happening like vintage racing, politic, money, greed  become the main event, our beloved sport will die.

I am sorry that it came out wrong fellows, this is what l ment to say.

[GD66]

What ?   

[Nathan S]

Let's fire up the Dot-to-English translator.

Well, l only have one thing to say: This will be my last year racing the Australian Classic Motocross Titles. [Portions of this translation have been removed as they cannot be translated into English]

[AjayVMX]

200 riders @ $185 = $37000.Average of two bikes per rider is another $5500. How much can more can it be? 
This is looking like a money grab all round. QVMX did very well from the nats and they didn't charge as much.

090, do you really think that there will be 200 riders though?

[firko]

Let's fire up the Dot-to-English translator.

That's funny. 

[Mick22]

Personally I think anything around $200 entry fee for an Open meeting is OK and cheap compared to other sports I've been involved in.

There is no evil overlord, excecutives or shareholders pocketing the money - the money goes back into the sport covering costs and developing facilities. This is especially true of a club like PMCC, the promoting club. They along with the Harley & Newport clubs have poured plenty of time and money into the Broadford complex over the years to make it what it is.

I think the Broadford complex is an amazing accomplishment for a non-profit / volunteer group of clubs & MV. Every time I go there you can see more work that has been put into the place..that's where your money's going.

Sponsorship is lucky to cover the trophies & prizes,its never going to help reduce the entry for something like VMX. As a group we are a very small market, apart from a few niche suppliers who is going to get any benefit out of sponsoring VMX? I reckon the guys that are putting in sponsorship dollars are probably doing it more out of passion than any real buisness case

[Mick22]

If it's owned by the state government, then wouldn't these clubs/MA have to pay a hire/lease fee ?

Still owned by Motorcycling Victoria, I think they started calling it the "State Motorcyling Complex" after the state government tipped in some money for the World MX & Supermoto  rounds a few years back but MV still retains ownership, Harley Club owns some of the land. Preston Club has paid a large some of money into Broadford as a loan to MV to help pay for the Road Race Track which has been outstanding for about 20 years so I'm guessing they don't pay a hire fee

[Drakie]

Just a note to explain the price rise for the ACMXCs.
 As head of the organizational pyramid, I get all the lightning strikes so I can cop that. But just so that you know what’s involved; I’ll try to explain.
 I tried to keep the cost to the previous level but when the budget blew out with increased ambulance and scoring costs and we couldn’t attract a sponsor to this Australian Championship, we had a potential walkout by the organizing club as they would take a huge loss. Compromise became necessary and although I’m as cheap a bastard as the rest of you we had to save this event and hike the price to break even.
On a happier note, we have secured Gary Jones to stay in the country for one more week after the HBBB and he will compete in the ACMXCs, give out the awards at the Sunday night presentation dinner and possibly give a riding school on the Monday after HBBB.
Now, if there is interest in a riding school (and we get all the permits in place) for 10 riders for 3 hours am and 10 more pm; let me know via [email protected]
Also, Gary needs to be on a 1974 Honda 250 Elsinore for the HBBB so I need to hear from anyone who has a good example of one for him to ride (email me a pic too). The HBBB sessions will also double as a tryout for bikes to ride at the ACMXCs; so if you have something of interest that Gary could test, let me know. We already have a Can Am 250 MX2.  A 1973 twinshock YZ would be cool.
As for the Interstate Challenge, the heat I’m getting will ensure the event will be a great grudge match. Bring it on.

[090]

200 riders @ $185 = $37000.Average of two bikes per rider is another $5500. How much can more can it be? 
This is looking like a money grab all round. QVMX did very well from the nats and they didn't charge as much.

090, do you really think that there will be 200 riders though?

Well when I'm talking out my back side anything is possible. I am presuming that amount. I wouldn't be to far off though me thinks.
Thanks for replying Drakie, I will admit I know nothing about running an event and the costs involved. I only know that the last nat's yielded a nice profit. In the end I'm coming down so I had better get my entry in.
I hope the old boys still attend even though they won't get the amount of age group races as in the past.

[albrid-3]

Turn the light on, the moths start coming in.

[paul]

smoke and mirrors

[albrid-3]

HA, HA That funny paul

[GMC]

smoke and mirrors

Apparently he's been reading the novel "How to create Maico legends" 


"I hope the old boys still attend even though they won't get the amount of age group races as in the past."

Admittedly I haven't read the Supp regs, but as I understand it all the age group races are still on, they are now "all powers" races.

No doubt this will upset some, the 125 riders will feel hard done by, but I think it may be a good thing.
In the past if there wasn’t enough over 65’s then they were put in with the over 50’s or even the over 40’s etc.
The all powers scenario may create a fuller grid of old blokes but all on different capacities. My observations on life are that I travel much the same speed no matter what I am on so I don’t think the different capacities will effect the outcome too much, although their will be fewer trophies at the end of the day.

Better that all old blokes race each other regardless of capacity
than
All 125’s race each other regardless of age.

And just to add some classes, I think it would be a good thing if all powers age races were added for the Evo class, as I would rate this as the next most important class behind Pre 75.
I note that a lot of “old” guys are into this class. I envisage that you would be able to enter on an Evo or Pre78 bike just as you can enter pre 75 age races on a Pre 70 or Pre 65.

[Davey Crocket]

How are you Walter?