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Re: How many of you have seen one of these before?
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 03:02:47 pm »
mate got one myself va360 lyal said about 420 ever made... mines box stock low hour bike but a bit ruff because of the barn it was stored in..only ever trail ride mine has never let me down one very strong pulling motor

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Re: How many of you have seen one of these before?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 03:09:24 pm »
Does it look something like.....


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Re: How many of you have seen one of these before?
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 02:24:43 pm »
Graeme,

Haven't spotted this discussion before.  Main advantage of crank-mounted clutch is as you found out - cos the torque load is much less w'out primary reduction, they can be made much smaller/lighter to handle the same power. But balancing them is apparently very critical  cos they spin so much faster.

I once read that Jeff Smith said, when BSA was chasing light weight at all costs, they were going to develop a crank-mounted clutch to save more weight.

Inertia effect is changed of course, but is secondary consideration. Not so much inertia effect w regular mounted clutch, cos of reduction. Also as has been said above, it spinning in reverse in the regular positon cancells out some of gyoscopic effect of crank.

I've never been able to figure out why they were said to have gear-shift probs caused by the crank-mounted clutch either. I suspect Jared may well be correct when he says elsewhere that he suspects most of those probs were cause by the poor crancase  castings not holding the bearings/shafts in postion, rather than by the crank-mounted clutch.

One problem was said to be that the crank-mounted clutch on the Monty was a fair way outboard of the bearing causing a kind of whipping of the crankshaft end. That certainly makes sense. One would have tho't that may have lead perhaps to cranks snapping (ie the ends off), bad wear on the primary drive gears, & bearing failure or hi wear.

Tests of the day said the VA360 made plenty of power w a beautiful broad spread of power. I seem to recall Trevor Flood raced one briefly. Lyall O
Brien once told me the factory guys like Hakan Anderson immeditaely replaced the crank-mounted clutch w a regular one on their race bikes, but never told the powers-that-be at the factory.

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Re: How many of you have seen one of these before?
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2008, 03:26:07 pm »
The dealership that I worked at received four of the early style VA 360's.  Three were raced and one was play ridden
in the desert.  They all worked flawlessly for about 6 months until they started having transmission problems.
The fourth one never did have any problems and he never came back for his free engine fix.  I will say that the
early model was very smooth off of the mark, being almost impossible to stall, ran great and the clutch lever pull
was very light.  I alway's wondered how it would have been if they would have upgraded to the die forged cases
and kept the crank mounted clutch.  Now in 2008, I have two customers that still ride early models with no problems!


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Re: How many of you have seen one of these before?
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2008, 04:16:47 pm »
yep she looks like her.....plus a bit of rust and half a seat cover

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Re: How many of you have seen one of these before?
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2008, 04:21:34 pm »
weres all the old cases id like 2 get a set for spares just incase.....

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Re: How many of you have seen one of these before?
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2009, 09:10:04 am »
Followed this thread up and was wondering ???

Are clutch plates and pats available for the clutch on crank models?

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