Author Topic: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference  (Read 13776 times)

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2008, 06:11:56 pm »
I know new cases come with the screws  ;)

oldfart

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2008, 07:07:34 pm »
Barrel on right has had some sort of Knife edge port work, note that there is a taper from barrel all the way down port . RHS has a flat step on barrel . From what I read this means SFA
So I'm off down stairs to check volumes ::)
Lieth , I'm thinking the same as you with barrel rubbers being the only difference.

That is srews and gasket  :)

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2008, 09:20:02 pm »
oops..srews and gashget I meant sorry oldfart ;) :D

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2008, 09:56:56 pm »
The PE barrel has grooves cut into the fins to allow the rubber blocks to engage/sit in properly ,the RM does not. The other rubbers were small round discs that you pushed into the fin gaps to help absord a bit of vibration/engine noise.

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2008, 10:15:32 pm »
thats the X/Z 250 PE barrel that has those slots in the fins for the TS style square rubbers. most T model PE barrels i have seen have plain fins with no slots like the RM 250 T and the barrels look exactly the same as RM 250 and the round rubbers just squish in between the fins.

on one of my PE's i thought it had a RM cylinder when it just had plain fins and round rubbers, but more research just told me the early PE barrels were like that. but now going by this topic it looks like the Rm and PE barrels are the same anyway. its still a bit strange as the early PE/RM 250s had different porting and i have port maps side by side to show that from suzuki tech bulletins.

i also checked the RM 250 T parts book and theres definitely no small barrel rubbers fitted as standard like the 1980 PE barrel. they were only optional in the offroad sound kit.

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2008, 06:54:15 am »
What's the plan? How insanely powerful you want it?
Jesus only loves two strokes

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2008, 06:06:14 pm »
Insane  ::) just getting old  :D    Lozza- I was just curious to see if there was any difference or not, as I had done the swap barrel exercise and found no differrence . Having said that there was a noticable change in power with the knife edge ports  :)
Yes I had a plan and that was to Rm a Pe motor ( much stronger box , six speed plus a shit load of parts available still )
Going the other way I recon the G/ boxs arn't up to it

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2008, 10:59:16 pm »
Where's your spirit of adventure? Surely you didn't leave it behind at Coffs? The rubbers make the difference......................... ;D
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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2008, 02:51:58 am »
yes Loz, and not only do the rubbers make the difference the placement and sequenc of these rubbers is Feng-Shooooo and most infinately adjustable to suit individual requirements! Very misunderstood and underestimated the importance these rubbers have on outright performance and inner harmony I'd reckon ;)
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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2008, 05:48:26 pm »
I must admit Doc that when I was in the process of fitting the little rubber discs it become a lot like decorating a Xmas tree-  a couple here, a couple there and then stand back and stare a while and go and change a couple and so - on.

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Re: Rm 250 T / Pe 250 X barrel difference
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2008, 06:46:01 pm »
Rubbers!!! what are you blokes talking about . I refuse to use them ...literaly  ;D