NBN

[FAT-TOY]

Been inundated with junk type mail for a couple of weeks now.  All trying to get us to sign up for the NBN, which is now available in my area.  With all of the complains I have heard I'm not sure I want the bloody thing and at the prices they are asking it seems to be more unlikely every day.  None of the mail is from Telstra.  So do they have a finger in that pie as well or not.
  I have a Telstra bundle that includes all free phone calls to landlines and mobiles also dirt cheap overseas calls, it also includes platinum Foxtel, 2 mobiles and 500 gig internet coverage. So for me all the NBN means is a way for the phone company's  to stuff up this bundle that suits me.
  If any of you blokes are using the NBN can you answer these questions for me.
 (1)  Does the landline phone have to be linked to your modem?
 (2) How many phone outlets are you allowed to have?
 (3) Do you still have to use the filters on all of the outlets like we do now?

 I can understand if you live somewhere with limited internet and phone coverage and the NBN helps but not for me, to expensive and unreliable.

                       Zane

[Lozza]

Zane a few things that will help you decide is some background.
Now we have various ISP's that have their own ADSL equipment in the telephone exchange, they pay a nominal rate to telstra for the lease of the copper line to your socket. The ISP ADSL port is connected to your copper pair at the exchange.
With NBN this changes, NBN becomes the wholesaler and ISP's lease bandwidth off NBN on a node by node basis. The NBN node will be a green box near a pillar roughly within 800m from your house*

Now when you migrate to NBN , the copper from the node to your house is NBN's to maintain. There is NO LINE RENTAL on the copper to your house. Your provider pays the lease to nbn.

When you connect to NBN the telephone exchange(equipment and copper pair to the node) is now redundant. Your new or existing phone number is downloaded into the modem. If you want to retain any hard wired telephones there has to be a simple wiring change inside your house. The incoming line needs to come from the street directly to your modem, then dial tone will come from the phone 1 port from the modem and back to your existing wiring to connect any hard wired telephones. It is possible to have nbn but only a phone or nbn no phone.
So to answer your questions
1) Yes 2) 3 or 4 3) No

Because ISP's lease bandwidth from NBN you have to closely study the fine print of the plan. Someyou will get more usage but lower speed, others less usage but higher speeds. Generally 25/5 is plenty for $70-80 a month you will get a 500GB/unlimited bundle. For instance I have 100Gb plan on 25/5 with all the free calls and pay as you go.

Big advantage of NBN is it is a very stable platform,condition of the copper line is irrelevant and 25/5 speed guaranteed

[yamaico]

Sorry for the hijack Zane, but a question for Lozza:
I have NBN on my house with fibre optic from the underground "telecom" box out on the street. In that box there is another fibre connector for a secondary dwelling that I am building on my property but have yet to complete. I have run a conduit with a draw wire all the way from the box to the new house but have heard that any new installations are going to be in copper, not fibre. Do you know anything about that?
Thanks,
Pete.

[Hoony]

here is what i found on youtube.

i am waiting for NBN co to complete my installl. i have got the fibre from the street pit to the external of the house, just need the esternal to garage connection which will be Fibre. my understanding is that if you have fibre to the outside of the building you will get fibre to the inside and modem.

you don't get a choice with what you get.

FTTN (fibre to the node) if you area has square boxs (fibre nodes) these will use the existing shitty forked crappity crap old water damaged copper cables to from house to closest pillar and then copper from pillar to fibre node. thanks to Malcolm Turdbull whem he was comms minister

FTTP (fibre to the premises) fibre to your modem inside the house (usually garage for a new build)

FTTB (fibre to the building) fibre to the building for multiple dwellings or offices and then copper

[Lozza]

Sorry for the hijack Zane, but a question for Lozza:
I have NBN on my house with fibre optic from the underground "telecom" box out on the street. In that box there is another fibre connector for a secondary dwelling that I am building on my property but have yet to complete. I have run a conduit with a draw wire all the way from the box to the new house but have heard that any new installations are going to be in copper, not fibre. Do you know anything about that?
Thanks,
Pete.

If you are in a FTTP area you will get FTTP. A copper lead in cable  would have nothing to connect to.

here is what i found on youtube.

i am waiting for NBN co to complete my installl. i have got the fibre from the street pit to the external of the house, just need the esternal to garage connection which will be Fibre. my understanding is that if you have fibre to the outside of the building you will get fibre to the inside and modem.

you don't get a choice with what you get.

FTTN (fibre to the node) if you area has square boxs (fibre nodes) these will use the existing shitty forked crappity crap old water damaged copper cables to from house to closest pillar and then copper from pillar to fibre node. thanks to Malcolm Turdbull whem he was comms minister

FTTP (fibre to the premises) fibre to your modem inside the house (usually garage for a new build)

FTTB (fibre to the building) fibre to the building for multiple dwellings or offices and then copper

Forgot FTTK or "Fibre to the Kerb" , its not fibre to the house OK, alright , you got that straight, capish,  NBN has micro nodes and putting interfaces where 8 or 12 copper lead ins will connect to fibre very close to your house