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Offline Lozza

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Re: Crank bearing.
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2016, 09:06:01 pm »
With a wrinkled brow my mind has developed a question. While i accept C4 are a better or upgrade from a C3 bearing in this situation.. yet yamaha and I presume most makers specify C3 for mains . what makes a rotax bottom end any better to warrant the use of C4? I havnt heard of many jap bikes having catastrophic bottom end failures and I assume they would do the same RPM and have the same loads as a rotax. What am i missing?
Horse Power especially when the cases get hot . Many Japanese engines use C4 bearings OEM (Honda RS/Yamaha TZ), C3 are fine for road/trail engines but as soon as you push the envelope the C4 is the only option. The exception is the Aprilia RS 125 road bike (Rotax Type 122/123 engine) will run for less than 100km before the cage shits itself if you put C3's in. Don't ask me how I know that  ;) What makes a Rotax bottom end better, tighter tolerances and far better materials.

C5 were used in the old air cooled 100cc formula A kart engines what revved to 22,000 rpm
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Re: Crank bearing.
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2016, 10:31:47 pm »
Soooo rotax bottom ends are fragile things, poorly engineered and are lousy at getting rid of heat ? ;)

i dont think anyone would disagree that if your chasing ultimate perf from an engine the best bearings are the way to go.
Thanks for the enlightenment lozza




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Re: Crank bearing.
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2016, 10:02:06 am »
so who wants a crank pot for a 406/

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Re: Crank bearing.
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2016, 12:12:10 pm »
@Lozza.  Aprilia now recomend coconut oil premix for all their C3 main 2 strokes. 
If you love it, lube it.

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Re: Crank bearing.
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2016, 03:08:02 pm »
That would smell great :)

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« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2016, 03:27:25 pm »
makes me want to go to the beach and drink a martini out of a coconut

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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2016, 03:32:10 pm »
Uumh. It does sound enticing. Perfume for the pillion.
Scent of Aprilia.
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