Author Topic: Are pre75 wheehls turning quicker today ,then in 1975?  (Read 4028 times)

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Re: Are pre75 wheehls turning quicker today ,then in 1975?
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2008, 02:30:40 pm »
Freaky, the question was : are the wheels going around quicker ? That means , if you could set a top A grader with a top set up bike ( within the rules ) into a Worldchampion ship round in 1975. What would the outcome be ?

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Re: Are pre75 wheehls turning quicker today ,then in 1975?
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2008, 02:47:05 pm »
So you take a similar set up bike and put a modern rider on it and insert him into 1975 ?  or are you saying a Modern rider on a modern set up pre 75 ?  Still 2 differant things.   

ID this a question on the bikes set up now or the riders NOw ?

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Re: Are pre75 wheehls turning quicker today ,then in 1975?
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2008, 03:23:46 pm »
i think its would a top-grader of '08 do the top-graders of 'back then' if you could time machine them (minus their bikes) and plonk them on a factory '74 husky cr or something.  and most seem to be saying they'd do the aces of yesterdyear, due to the evolution of riding skills and approaches.  which means these skills must be independent (largely) of the bikes that evolved along with new approaches. 

i do know we often stick a young ACT gun on myer's '81 katoom 250, and he rides it like a modern and blew us away on it pretty much straight away.  so could be.

which means we could prolly ride a heap faster if we knew how they thought - and wouldn't need fancy modern gear to do it on.

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Re: Are pre75 wheehls turning quicker today ,then in 1975?
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2008, 05:35:47 pm »
I mean a modern Rider with a modern (but legal ) set up pre 75 bike .
For Example  Harrie Everts son ( also a world champion) riding his dads bike that we have modified .
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Re: Are pre75 wheehls turning quicker today ,then in 1975?
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2008, 08:15:55 pm »
I mean a modern Rider with a modern (but legal ) set up pre 75 bike .
For Example  Harrie Everts son ( also a world champion) riding his dads bike that we have modified .


30 years worth of human evolution is irrelevant.
30 years worth of riding development is significant.
30 years worth of bike development is huge, even if we apply that development to a VMX-legal bike.

I have no doubt that if you build Stefan Everts a good, 2008-spec VMX bike, gave him time to learn to ride it,  and transported both the bike and him back to 1974, that he'd wipe the floor with the heroes of the day.

Which is not to say that the heroes of the day weren't exceptional riders. While we're on the hypotheticals, I reckon that:
If you took the top riders from 1974 and put them into a time machine and brought them to 2008, many of them would rise to the top among the current crop of riders. The will to win, and the natural talent is what makes a top rider, far more than anything else.
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Re: Are pre75 wheehls turning quicker today ,then in 1975?
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2008, 09:21:06 pm »
Thats true , Nathan . So then we agree that wheels are turning faster now ? ( with the right rider of course)

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Re: Are pre75 wheehls turning quicker today ,then in 1975?
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2008, 09:55:05 am »
i cant get over how you see photos of guys back in the 50' and 60s getting a couple meters of air on british bikes when they had no suspension or only 2 or 3 inches!!!
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