Author Topic: 1977 vs 1978 YZ Frames  (Read 2026 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Tahitian_Red

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 1109
  • Mugen ME480
    • View Profile
1977 vs 1978 YZ Frames
« on: February 07, 2016, 06:16:50 pm »
All the test articles mention the added chromoly in the 1978 YZ frames, but how much lighter and stronger are they versus the 1977 frames? 

I am assuming they used 70's "Japanese Chromoly".  ;)
The "Factory Novice"
California, USA

'74 Suzuki TM100, '75 Bultaco 250 Pursang, '77 Honda XR75, '77 Suzuki RM125B, '77 Yamaha YZ400D, '79 Honda CR250RZ Moto-X Fox Replica, '83 Honda ME480RD Mugen

Offline Nathan S

  • Superstar
  • ******
  • Posts: 7275
  • HEAVEN #818
    • View Profile
Re: 1977 vs 1978 YZ Frames
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2016, 07:57:26 pm »
I strongly suspect that there's minimal actual difference in the material used in D & E frames.

Having had bare 125D & 125E frames together, there's no discernible different in weight, corrosion resistance, difficulty to drill/cut. If anything, I've seen way more cracked E frames than D ones - this is the only sign I've seen that there is actually a difference between them... :/
The good thing about telling the truth is that you don't have to remember what you said.

Offline LWC82PE

  • Superstar
  • ******
  • Posts: 6006
    • View Profile
    • PE motorcycles & SuzukiTS.com
Re: 1977 vs 1978 YZ Frames
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2016, 08:13:42 pm »
I have an official suzuki doc where they explain differences between 76 and 77 RM's. They said the 77 swingarm is made from 'high-tensile strength steel' (what ever that is?) and is constructed to weight less and be more rigid than the 76 which was made of 'cro-moly'. When i first held a 76 i thought wow this feels light (compared to a mild steel swingarm) and i knew it was cro-moly by the sound it made when tapping it. But then that feels like a boat anchor compared to some alloy swingarms i have. KG's difference. I have not got a 77 one to compare too though. But I wonder exactly what material the 77 is made from since they say its not cro-moly like the 76.
Wanted - 1978 TS185 frame or frame&motor. Frame # TS1852-24007 up to TS1852-39022

Offline shelpi

  • Legend
  • *****
  • Posts: 2056
    • View Profile
Re: 1977 vs 1978 YZ Frames
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2016, 11:06:28 am »
just my opinion, I think the RM77 swing arm is made of pressed mild steel sheet metal because it rusts like mild steel, welds like it and feels about right in the weight stakes and sounds like it when belting the piss out of it,
hence why it is box section, dont get me wrong they strong and light enough ish