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Offline zorroz

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RM500
« on: January 21, 2014, 10:44:50 am »
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Re: RM500
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 01:21:13 pm »
Yeah spot on. It's a 465 frame as the 500's had the cushion lever mount further out on the frame.
Looks like another "bittza" ???
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Re: RM500
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 02:07:35 pm »
Doesn't the 83 500 have the same frame and top suspension lever as the 82 465 but the 83 has alloy struts? The 84 500 has a new different length top lever..
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Re: RM500
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 05:55:19 pm »
Frame number is shown as   RM465 - 101455.
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Re: RM500
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2014, 10:10:05 am »
Quote from: JohnnyO on January 21, 2014, 02:07:35 pm
Doesn't the 83 500 have the same frame and top suspension lever as the 82 465 but the 83 has alloy struts? The 84 500 has a new different length top lever..

465/500 have different swingarms, struts and bell crank (top lever) and rear shock, frame for z and d appear same, 84 500 frame has different swingarm/bell crank and struts to the first two, also has different frame, similar but different gussetting, this one looks to have a set of 500 cases at least! $1000 special at best.....
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Re: RM500
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2014, 10:30:16 am »
Quote from: Ktm181 on January 22, 2014, 10:10:05 am
Quote from: JohnnyO on January 21, 2014, 02:07:35 pm
Doesn't the 83 500 have the same frame and top suspension lever as the 82 465 but the 83 has alloy struts? The 84 500 has a new different length top lever..

465/500 have different swingarms, struts and bell crank (top lever) and rear shock, frame for z and d appear same, 84 500 frame has different swingarm/bell crank and struts to the first two, also has different frame, similar but different gussetting, this one looks to have a set of 500 cases at least! $1000 special at best.....
I think only the 84 500 has a different swingarm, bell crank etc. 82 465 and 83 500 appear the same, just like the 82 and 83 250.. The 83 went to alloy struts
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Re: RM500
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2014, 04:50:00 pm »
Hey JO, nope, definately different.  D swinger is about 15mm longer, bell crank has different ratio,struts mount in different position on D (further forward), different top out stop for the Z etc, suttle but better in every way for the D, the '84 (E?) is different again. I have a Z and a D 465/500 side by side in my cave at the moment, well z is in pieces but you get the idea!

For me i reckon the Z turned quicker but the D was better everwhere else, still didnt stop me getting hole shots on a 465Z against them though!

Oh, and similar differences on the 250s as well. 

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Re: RM500
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2014, 06:18:54 pm »
That's good to know KT cos they look the same at a glance..
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