G'day, My bike of choice at the moment is a Gas Gas EC 300 2t 2011, elec start, switchable cdi map, mazocchi and sachs suspension , exel wheels, fmf exhaust all standard from new and only 102 kgs compared to 112- 114 for the 450's, which is so good on the side of a hill, I'm not a fast rider I got it for the weight and the torque it's like riding a 4t , I can just pick my way slowly up a steep rocky more easily than the DR 400 I had before, which was also a great bike. They're cheaper than a ktm and much more pretty, I did a lot of research before buying and could not find a person who had owned one say anything but good things about them, strong reliable motor and parts are readily available. go the gas gas!