Couple of other MOMS please explains

[Zakk]

None of those blokes are particularly noted for their talents as dirt bike racers?!

...the big bonus with racing dirt bikes is that the ability of the rider is a huge percentage component of the speed of the bike. Unlike road racing or drag racing where the performance of the bike is critical, our scene is more about how good the rider is.

 

i think both Doohan and Stoner grew up dirttracking ?

but either way, having spent the last 20 years road racing i'd aggree that MX'ing doesn't require anyware near the amount of bike set up

[Curly3]

I think this will be a never ending topic.
The vast majority of our leading International riders did their apprenticeship on OZ DT, riding very different track surfaces and in all conditions, that's the big bonus we have over the rest of the world.

[Rossvickicampbell]

Hey Firko - here is one for you.  Whilst you are correct that a KLP YZB swingarm is illegal here the swingarm for the same bike is OK in the states because of the 74/75 distribution of bikes - I mean that there were swingarms for these in 75 in the States but because they are then post 75 are not OK here.

[GD66]

None of those blokes are particularly noted for their talents as dirt bike racers?!

Casey won over 40 national and 70 state dirt track titles as a wee feller.....

[Nathan S]

Is this "let's misinterpret everything day" or something?
 

In this thread on OzVMX, we're talking about Messers Stoner and Doohan's dirt track careers (the newest of which ended 13 years/half his lifetime ago!), as though it has relevance to the point about dirt bike races being less dependant on machinery and more on rider skill.

It's an interesting enough topic by itself, but Jebus...

[Lozza]

As you go up the totem pole of riders, the better riders require more from the machine, even a machine a simple as a speedway bike, a world class rider would fuss over things the average rider wouldn't consider important.

[Curly3]

Thanks Lozza because that is the essence of what Speedway is about.
4 lap's, 60 sec of racing means that bike setup couldn't be more important.
The little things I saw some of the top riders of the 80's fuss over often made me wonder, WHY.
When you look at their overall results you got your answere.

[SON]

As you go up the totem pole of riders, the better riders require more from the machine, even a machine a simple as a speedway bike, a world class rider would fuss over things the average rider wouldn't consider important.

One of the best quotes on this forum,
For those who just don,t know
Casey 41 times OZ Junior Champion,
In his KTM days he raced a Dirttrack at Barleigh Ranch on a stock bike and was closely beaten into second, by the current Australian Champion on his setup bike, 2 days after Caseys bike came out of the box, Harvesta has photos,
2 weeks of practice I would put my house on him to beat anyone,
Heads turn throttles he has one of the best, ask the guys that have raced him one on one,
Even riding trials he is amazing,

[kim80y]

People may want to think about this, taken from 2013 manual of motorcycle sport:
12.10 SOUND EMISSIONS - ALL DISCIPLINES
NOTE: From 1/7/2013 sound testing must be
carried out at all permitted events however it is
not mandatory to test all machines
12.10.1 Specifications
12.10.1.1 Sound emissions are set out in the
tables below:
30 meters (from side of track) ride by test
DISCIPLINE LIMIT dB(A)
Road Racing 95
Historic Road Racing 95
Classic MX & Dirt Track 95
Speedway (including Quads) 95
Dirt Track & Track (incl. Quads) 95
Record Attempts No limit
12.10.2 Use of sound level meters
12.10.2.1 Sound testing apparatus must:
a) Comply with international standard
IEC 651, Type 1 or Type 2.
b) Include a compatible calibrator, which
must be used immediately before
testing begins and always just prior to
a re-test if a disciplinary sanction may
be imposed.
12.10.2.2 Sound testing apparatus must be set to:
a) ‘Fast response’
b) ‘A’ weighted,
c) Select range High 80~130 dB,
e) Activate the function MAX MIN -
set on MAX,
12.10.2.3 ‘30 Meter ride by’ test
a) The sound levels will be measured
with the sound meter/microphone
fixed on a tripod, in the horizontal
position, 30 meters from the edge
of the track at a high speed point.

Cheers
Kim