We need to repair a Honda frame....so I guess it would become a Hondaha.....I might send the clogwog over....those mid 80's Honda frames must have been made out of Russian chro-moly....like they sold Fiat back in the late 60's/early 70's.....comes with a 100% garrantee to rust warranty or your money back.....if you can get it commrad Paulskie.....ps....dont mention this to the I ties....they still havent got over it.