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Offline caps 999

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Re: More joys of Ali frames
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2010, 10:46:16 am »
crf250 i believe
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2010, 11:59:31 am »


I bet at this stage he was thinkin' "YEAH I'M COOL. OH MAN I'M SOOOOOOO COOL YEAH. NEGST TIME ROUN' I'M REALLY GUNNA WHIP DIS MAMMA! YEAH I'M COOL" etc, etc....AAAAAUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! :D
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Re: More joys of Ali frames
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2010, 12:02:30 pm »
It's not all ali frames. Here's Tommy Thompsons Mk7 Bully at a Dargle vintage meet in the mid 90s. Tommy brought it to a stop without crashing. .

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Re: More joys of Ali frames
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2010, 05:30:29 pm »
I can spot the problem - don't use riding number 60  ;D
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Re: More joys of Ali frames
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2010, 01:15:25 am »
....and everyone said # 13 was bad.
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Re: More joys of Ali frames
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2010, 05:42:28 pm »
I think a lot of frames will break with suitable effort, some easier than others.....mid 80s KXs spring to mind.

Definitely combining CR500 vibrations with odd plates welded on to a previously age hardened, heat treated alloy frame doesn't surprise me too much. But until you do it you will never find out  ;D
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Re: More joys of Ali frames
« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2010, 10:23:34 pm »
honny the snaped 500af was a home made one in england the welds didnt penetrate deep enough on the gusset where the put the replacment cradle in the frame the below photo was taken before the snap if you look in the circle you can see where the frame is sperating



I doubt any frame would just suddenly break in two, this bike would have been handling a bit “funny” before it let go completely.

My 2000 model KTM 300 had its swingarm break clean through just in front of the axle where the webbing is still thin.
I pulled over 3 times to check to see if I had a flat because it was behaving weird.
Thinking it must be me I parked it and as I got off I noticed something shiny on the swingarm. Close inspection revealed it was broken clean through.
It was lucky I didn’t do any jumps with it like this as I doubt the other side would have held up by itself. With the chain being the only thing holding the rear wheel on I doubt the result would have been pretty.
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Re: More joys of Ali frames
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2010, 11:07:53 pm »
I've seen plenty of Al MTB frames crack - cheapies and the really good ones and everything in between. Back before I really understood the concept of 'metal fatigue', I speculated that all alloy MTB frames would crack eventually. Now I know they will...

I don't like it as a frame material. It has its advantages, and I'm sure that the manufacturers build them with a heap of extra weight to bring the fatigue life up, but I still prefer a good chromoly frame.
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