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Offline allan55

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PE250N reed valve
« on: June 20, 2010, 01:30:47 pm »
I'm rebuilding a PE250N that is a very original one owner bike. When he got a flat tyre 18 years ago he parked it in his mothers shed and it stayed there until I bought it a few months ago. The top end looks good, no wear in the bore etc just a bit of carbon to remove.  My concern is the reed valves. Because they are so old should I replace them or will they be OK?
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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 01:39:44 pm »
Yep do it, can,t hurt. :)
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 02:44:15 pm »
Do main seal's while your at it ....piss easy job ;)

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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 07:20:13 pm »
I'm rebuilding a PE250N that is a very original one owner bike. When he got a flat tyre 18 years ago he parked it in his mothers shed and it stayed there until I bought it a few months ago. The top end looks good, no wear in the bore etc just a bit of carbon to remove.  My concern is the reed valves. Because they are so old should I replace them or will they be OK?
Thanks
How much work do you want to do? If you split the cases, do the bearings and seals.
Else, lift the barrel and replace the reeds with Boyesen or whatever.
oh and be careful not to use the ethanol mix fuels in these old bikes.
You may also want to put in a new tube and pump up the tyre :-)

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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 08:24:58 pm »
Luke where do you find ethanol free fuel other than going to race fuels ???

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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 09:29:24 pm »
Buy 98 rated fuel....Caltex 98.....BP 98....Shell 98....it's written on the pump......they also have a name most of them...vortex, ultimate, ultra.....
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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 09:42:02 pm »
I put some 98 in my 400x trust me you can tell the difference from normal unleaded I mean it is as close as to super as you are going to get cars and bikes used to run better on super I was talking to a mechanic mate he reckons even new cars would run better on it the major change in engines is only fuel injection they are still manufactured the same way.
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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 10:23:52 pm »
I put some 98 in my 400x trust me you can tell the difference from normal unleaded I mean it is as close as to super as you are going to get cars and bikes used to run better on super I was talking to a mechanic mate he reckons even new cars would run better on it the major change in engines is only fuel injection they are still manufactured the same way.

For the umteeth time fuel will make NO difference unless you tune for it. PULP98 fuels are far better than old 'super'. Cars have O2 sensos for openloop injection and cataylitic converters in them now, to reduce emissions, lead kills O2 sensors and catalyitic convertors.Case closed.
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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 09:21:12 pm »
Thanks for the advice. I think I will risk it and just replace the reeds and clean up the top end. As far as spares go , e.g. reeds, bearings etc is it better to try your local  Suzuki dealer first then try the specialist traders and ebay?
Thanks for the advice.

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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 09:28:19 pm »
Yeah but if you are pulling your top end off see if your rod has play if so you only have to do it right once it isn't hard to replace bearings seals and gaskets I am doing it to my 250b at the moment not to hard to do at all.
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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 11:18:41 pm »
i normally steer clear of high octane pump fuels after working in a bike store for the last 5 years we had countless bikes coming in with problems caused by 98 octane fuels as they actually just use addtives  to bring the octane up now and a common one is sulfer in those 98 fuels it cand fowl 2 stroke plugs easy in all my bikes i either use regular no addtitive 92 octane or race fuels at a 40:1 ratio
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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 06:24:42 pm »
Yeah but if you are pulling your top end off see if your rod has play if so you only have to do it right once it isn't hard to replace bearings seals and gaskets I am doing it to my 250b at the moment not to hard to do at all.
Beauty frosty any chance you want to do another? :)
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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 08:09:37 pm »
it isn't too hard at all Mike but you are in Queensland? and I am in Victoria if you wanted a cheap rebuild all you'd need to do is buy a full gasket kit crank seals and big and little end bearings then take it somewhere local but I'd make sure they did it by not supplying them with the barrel so you can check there is no rod play before the barrel goes on I doubt they would do the wrong thing but some people might. :-\
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Re: PE250N reed valve
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2010, 08:22:42 pm »
it isn't too hard at all Mike but you are in Queensland? and I am in Victoria if you wanted a cheap rebuild all you'd need to do is buy a full gasket kit crank seals and big and little end bearings then take it somewhere local but I'd make sure they did it by not supplying them with the barrel so you can check there is no rod play before the barrel goes on I doubt they would do the wrong thing but some people might. :-\

Just tryin it on Frosty. Doing the husky at the moment , Pe later :)
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