A long term forum member has com to the rescue and sent his tongs to me , so I can make my own . We had a couple of long chats since . He used to be a great and regular contributor, but copped a terrible bashing and mobbing when the 12 loony's roamed this place around 2010. He is still following on here as a lurker sometimes. He told me how 5 of them trolls are no longer polluting this planet and 2 or 3 others are in safe places now . I have to agree things have calmed down a lot , even to a point where you have to wait some time to have a query answered. The new troll laws would have had also an positive impact and rightly so . It may even bring a few of the old boys back . There was so much useful knowledge and camaraderie amongst them .