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Horsepower and 250's
« on: September 11, 2008, 07:55:53 pm »
What were the likely correct/true horsepower of the last pre powervalve 250's??.....early 1980's

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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2008, 10:42:45 pm »
hard to say but i would be thinking somewhere around the 42-45hp mark at a wild guess
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2008, 07:03:38 am »
Why Expat ,do you want to join the pre 86 men?Pre 75 too slow for ya?, Ask Shane at the weekend his 250 cr leaves the rest of us in a straight line like we have put the brakes on!!! ??? :o
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2008, 08:51:52 am »
Expat,

Lozza would probably have a fair idea.
My guess would be a bit below Hooney's, but I'm only guessing too.

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2008, 09:49:13 am »
Showed Lozza my 9 port reed valve Monty barrel recently....



...and he reckoned 50hp ;D. Probably 'at the crank' ::). Whatcha reckon, 40-45 at the back wheel.

And that would everthing being spot on; best ign, best fuel, best carb, best tune, best chamber  ;). But not bad, a 50% improvement in 10 years, early 70's to early 80's.

I might have to put it together and find out.

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2008, 10:06:40 am »
Graeme,

Ain't there 10 ports in that Monty barrell? 3 ex, 4 tr, 1 in, 2 boost.

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Re: Horsepower and 250's
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2008, 05:37:45 pm »
With water cooling around the 35HP mark.
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Re: Horsepower and 250's
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2008, 09:18:04 pm »
according to Mugen my 1980 CR had 36 HP and the kit added another 4 to take it to 40.

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2008, 09:16:44 am »
I'm w Loz. I think the other claims are overly optimistic. Factory claims are notoriously optimistic.

A Graham Bell (in his 2stroke tuning book) put a 79/80 CR250R on the pump & got 29.8hp stock, but he upped that to 32.4hp w a three satge diffuser/tapered header pipe, tho its not exactly a fatty pipe.

Seems to me the exh valve was the quatum leap in obtaining hi power outputs in the mid-hi 40s.

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2008, 11:10:09 am »
Ignitions and carburetors went ahead also.Not to mention Nikasil barrels..............but todays 250 pump big torque numbers which is where it's at.
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