Heating Torch setup.

[Rossvickicampbell]

Gents (excluding my Kiwi mate of course - and he knows who he is  ) - any recommendations for a heating torch setup for the shed?  Don't have a lot to do but was wondering on size of burner and then whether to go just hand held bottle or hose and gas bottle (do they run on barby gas???).  Will start looking around but first thoughts were Bunnings or CIG (is now BOC yes???).

Any info appreciated.

cheers

me

[Davey Crocket]

You had better tell us what you want to do with it first Mr Campbell......melting down a CR maybe?

[Rossvickicampbell]

refining gold in my back yard.  No - just basic paint stripping, straightening bent brake levers etc - all minor stuff

[FourstrokeForever]

Having an Oxy Acetylene set up in the shed is hard to look past Ross. Not only can you do all your paint burning and straightening jobs, you can also bronze weld and cut thick steel with it. The hire of the bottles is ridiculous though. Here in Vic it's $198 per bottle, per year. I use the E size bottles mounted on a hand trolley. The smaller size bottles aren't much cheaper....

[Rossvickicampbell]

was hoping to get away from that - sorry didn't mention that I work away also so not home that often and wouldn't use a set of bottle in 10 years    basically wondering whether one of the burners and small propane bottles would be OK - although can guarantee the bottles wouldn't be available after next week - or go for one of those kits that fits to a 9kg bottle - which I always have?

[FourstrokeForever]

Go for the LPG set up that you can use on your 9KG bottle. I have heard they are pretty handy. Just a bit of a colder flame....

[oldyzman]

I haver had the LPG 9kg for a while, there is another torch called Bernzomatic, look it up on evilbay. Plumbers use them a lot these days. Not as hot as an oxy but way hotter than LPG.
Brett

[Rossvickicampbell]

thanks Brett/TBM/DC - will have a look

[smed]

  http://www.bernzomatic.com/item.html?id=18       I have one like this with the map gas bottle,got it from Bunnings,does 90% of what I need to do even a little bit of brazing on small stuff( I aint no engineer though),the bottles although lightweight seem to last forever 

[oldfart]

Map gas is quite handy for small  applications but has it's limits ...... 

[frostype400]

There is a head you can get for a mapp bottle now that has dual injectors so it can do a fair whack with it so much so that we no longer carry an oxy in the work ute I have oxy at the shed but I rarely use it.

Rothenberger Rofire look it up it is heaps better than the regular one and the map gas isn't to dear lasts quite a while have found that they are bit prone to leaking not a problem though just unscrew it after each use which you are suppose to do anyway.

I know you can get them from Reece's and probably any other plumbing store.

[GMC]

CIG are now a brand of welder, BOC is who you want for gas but I recommend Supagas, an Aussie company that are good to deal with.

Also check out Air liquid and There is another brand but the name escapes me now, they used to be Linde and they now have a new name (another takeover I think)

Beware of Air Liquide though, they have a shonky system wherein they charge you a penalty fee if you don’t exchange the bottle every 3 months effectively making it double rent, it was the main reason I pissed them off.

For heating, brazing, cutting and silver soldering LPG works fine and yes your barby bottle would be the best deal, it’s what I use but you will still need a bottle of Oxygen to run with it.
It’s not much chop for fusion welding though as setting a neutral flame is either hard or impossible, I gave up last time I tried.

Those little bottle things sound like they might be the go for small jobs but I wonder what sort of heat you get from them,?
Never tried them myself but I have an LPG soldering iron that runs without an oxygen bottle and it doesn’t put out as much heat as a system that uses an oxygen bottle