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Offline sa63

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ignition id
« on: April 06, 2013, 07:53:18 am »



can anyone help to id this ignition,
It starts the motor well (B50) but I would like to know what it is.

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Re: ignition id
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2013, 08:11:58 am »
Looks KX. What are the wire colours from the unit -black, blue and white/red?
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Re: ignition id
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 10:05:50 am »
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Looks KX. What are the wire colours from the unit -black, blue and white/red?
Looks a bit Yamaha-ish as well.....I'd say it's Mitsubishi anyway. The control module isn't Yamaha so not being familiar with Kwakas I'll bow to my wrecking yard colleague who'd know such stuff :D.
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Re: ignition id
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2013, 11:32:45 am »
       Also looks Suzuki  A/B/C - N/T  (kokusan?) - very interesting , also it doesnt run a chain tensioner on it ?   :)
« Last Edit: April 06, 2013, 11:40:57 am by Huskibul »
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Re: ignition id
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2013, 11:45:35 am »
rotor and coils look yz 80 the backing plate home made.wire colours coming out of the small coil will be red/white big coil black/red earth black/white. ign box unknown. 
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Re: ignition id
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2013, 12:44:33 pm »
It's off a Honda,CR125M,I reckon ;),with custom backing plate as micks said :)
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Re: ignition id
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2013, 01:15:57 pm »
This is funny.....we've covered all of the Japanese makes here and we all think we're right ;D......Whatever it is it's a neat conversion.
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Re: ignition id
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2013, 01:29:07 pm »
I'd say it might have started out on a PDV.I have a PDV 250 that uses the same type Mitsubishi box.


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Re: ignition id
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2013, 10:28:25 pm »
Ill confirm the wire colours , definitely on a turned up  adaptor backing plate.
coil is grey with "made in Japan "on it so it could well be k/h/y / suz!

No tensioner and the clutch is a full billet aluminium job, very nicely machined, and petty unmarked.

I haven't had a timing light on it so don't know about advance.

The motor is pulled down awaiting top end refreshments..
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Re: ignition id
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2013, 01:57:44 am »
anyway its a simple system the big 4 were using back in the day with the big fat coil charging the cdi and the little fellow pulsing the cdi to turn the coil off,for different advance curves theres plenty of different models of bikes from the era to choose from though you need to know what wires go where but not that hard with a circuit diagram to guide you ;)
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Re: ignition id
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2013, 02:19:32 pm »
A mate looked at it and thought it looked Suzuki rm...

I was looking at the CDI unit on a B model rm125 on sunday - looks very similar..

As for wire colours coming out of the stator: 1White,1 red and 1 blue and brown
 from the CDI to the coil, 1black and 2 green and yellow.
there are also numbers on the coil, but haven't unbolted it to see what they are.
So if its RM any comments on the advance they have?

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