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Offline Sammundo

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pre 75 options
« on: August 29, 2012, 04:09:12 pm »
so after an excellent weekend at harrisville i think im hooked. the only bad thing was i wasnt in enough races. well, that and the ones i was in i lost but no matter. So i figure i need to enter another class. and as i liked the look of the pre 75 125 i thought that might be the place to go. Problem is i know just about nothing about dirt bike of any generation never mind ones that are older than me. So the question is what kind of bikes are you guys running?
I do have a sl125 rolling frame in the garage waiting for me to do someting with it but havnt been able to trake down an engine. would a 100 bottom end fit a 125 barrel on? or a xl combination maybe? or am i better of finding a 2 stroke motor to put in and if so what from. Any tips or hints much appreciated.
Oh and this is going to be on a bit of a budget as most of my funds have to go on a pram and cot and such things.on the bright side in a few years i will have a side car companion as i quite liked the look of that too  ;D !!!

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Re: pre 75 options
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2012, 05:13:29 pm »
I'd be looking for an mx125, I reckon it'd be cheaper and easier to fix up than what you've got and definately faster.

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Re: pre 75 options
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2012, 07:22:53 pm »
SL100 motor fits into a 125 frame.
The 125 top end fits onto a 100 bottom end, but I think the cases need to be machined out to fit the bottom of the barrel in.

Could be a fun little bike, but is not a good start to a serious race bike...

If you're on a tiny budget, a twin shock DT125 is a good starting point - same basic bike as the MX125 and YZ125, and are worth even less than a SL125... You can make the little DT a lot better than stock for sod-all money, and can be made faster than a stock YZ-A for not too much more.
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Re: pre 75 options
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 06:06:33 pm »
ok sounds good. i currently run a dt in evo which is obviously a bit down on power. i assume upgrades on this would be the same as a 74 bike? What parts should i look at replacing with yz bits? i assume head, barrel and expansion chamber form the same year bike?

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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 08:27:25 pm »
My DT125 originally had:
26mm carb from a DT250;
Pod filter on the back of the carb;
No silencer (still not very loud);
electronic ignition from a YZ125E;
DT250 forks in MX250A triples;
Front wheel and brake from a YZ125E;
330mm long Mulholland shocks.

It was otherwise stock.
It wasn't fast, but it was so easy to ride that it was reasonably competitive at club days - a real asset at my skill level.
I also think it owed me about $500 all-up at that point, including new grips, new chain & sprockets etc.

It subsequently got a YZ125A gearset (in hindsight, an MX gearbox would be better), a 32mm carb from the same YZ125E. This made it fast enough to keep me comfortably in the front half of the field of Heaven's Classic 125 class (pre-75 & pre-78 combined). It was also considerably faster than my stock YZ125A.

Whenever it makes it back out the shed again, it will have a Lozza barrel, cut & shut IT125 pipe, and a MX125 airbox mated up to the 125E carby. And a RM125B(?) seat, YZ-A tank and some decent shocks.
I think it will be at least as good as the Elsinores - although obviously with different strengths and weaknesses between the two bikes.
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Re: pre 75 options
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2012, 07:50:27 am »
thanks for the info. whats a lozza barrel?

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2012, 12:28:25 pm »
A barrel ported by Uncle Lozza from the Two-Stroke Instituite.
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Re: pre 75 options
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2012, 09:59:04 pm »
There's a few upgrades available since that was done................... ;D
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Re: pre 75 options
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2012, 08:23:54 pm »
I was racing my XL100 at Harrisville against Greg and his son on the other honda four strokes. I have spent a total of $500.00 so far and was able to pass most people and be mid pack. I can find you an engine and help with all the mods that have worked for me. Just contact me through the club and I can help you get that pre75 racer going.

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Huskies
CR250 1972, CR400 1972, SC125 1973, CR250 1975GP, WR250 1979/80, XC125 1983, TX510 1983, XC125 1984 project, CR250 1984 project
Honda's
SL100 1971, XL100 1974, Hondasaki 210, XL185 1981 project
Jawa's
1959 250 project, 1969 175 trail boss project.
Sachs 1969 125