best of the rest???

[matcho mick]

best pommy "stock" dirt frame Steve?,beezer duplex,didn't Rickman bros start off using them,mabsa's ,tribsa's etc etc
ps yes woulda been thread hijack

[VMX247]

steve
bsa duplex
arial duplex
road racing
norton feather bed
bsa duplex
ariel duplex
i think you will find that grass track frames were around pre 65 in england ie frame between motor and gear box

[VMX247]

oh heck it worked ...stealing other folks posts,,
So what era are we talking about here ??
cheers A

[Curly3]

Thanks Jim & Mick, I thought it could've been seen as a hijack.
My thinking was to find a stock frame to fit a 2 valve Jawa into for pre 65.
Sorry Alison we're speaking in code.

[JAP 454]

Ariel duplex frames  were pretty good , had a much better swing arm than Beesers, did race both types before I saw the light, bought an AJS single bar frame fitted with a 5 stud JAP, that was OK , but took the JAP out and fitted that to a Paul Sly speedway frame , and put an Ajay motor back in and used it as me first trail bike !!. saw a few specials based on the AJS duplex frame from the twin.
Foss

[JAP 454]

This is the Ajay I was talking about in the last post , about  1976


I bought it from Lee Roebuck fitted with a 5 stud JAP, it was Brian Bollin's from Goulburn dirt tracker,
It is a genuine Compy frame , has the right tank , footrests etc, I fitted an iron barrel motor and rounded up headlight , tail lights , dual seat  etc and used it on the road and trails.
Elaine used to ride this as well, wish we still had it !!

By the way, my old Ariel slider that Jim has , is based on an Ariel duplex frame.
Will try to find a photo of me 350 Ariel duplex ,
Foss

[JAP 454]

OK , Found it !! apologise for the quality but this is the only photo of this bike that survived the fire.


In the photo the bike is under construction , it is an alloy head , iron barrel, about 1957 350 Ariel in an Ariel duplex frame , motor with Sid Willis piston and valves, Art Senior cam and followers, steel flywheels etc.
I guess it gives a good idea of what we had to do to get a race bike BITD.

Photo was taken at Menai, less than a K from where Jim lives now, all bush and chook farms in those days !!

I conned the  Shire grader driver to carve out a quarter mile oval under the power lines next door.
Foss

[matcho mick]

noice AJ Foss,thats a amc box hiding behind yer boot,makes it middle 50's ,last of the jampot models?,

[500Fool]

Hoon time, XR Falcon V8 and faties. Did those side levers inhibit your peripheral view? You could'nt see peeble overtaking you until they pulled in front with those

This is the Ajay I was talking about in the last post , about  1976

[JAP 454]

Yep, yer right there about the Ajay, Mick , last of the jampots, middle fifties , rode the thing all over the top end of the Abercrombie river valley , fishing and all that sort of stuff, surprising how good it was as a trail bike.
The XR !! Without a doubt one of , no , the worst, most uncomfortable tow cars  we ever had , had all the good gear , factory fitted GS pack , slushbox , laydown seats, extractors etc, etc, lights used to just go out on their own, zilch , nada , zero , nothing at all , no lights at 90mph on the straights near Griffith is just a tad un-nerving, especially with a trailer with three bikes on the back.
AAh well, those were the days.
Will have some Classic pix from Canberra K & Q Dirt track and the results later today.
Foss