Fournales have been around for a few years , I think they where released in 82 . We have tried them offroad with very little sucess ( to harsch but still bottoming out ) .Also when they leak , they have no spring to rest on, they just go down with no warning. I can not say if you played with them ,they could be improved , because we never did. Some of the Harley Doods love them for theyr looks .Try them anyway .