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PE400 frame mounts
« on: June 26, 2010, 06:52:17 pm »
Hi guys,

I bought a non complete 1980 PE400 for resto and I dont know what a couple of the tags are for on the frame. Photo 1 below shows a mount for some sort of cable but I know its not the rear or front brakes or for the clutch. Can anyone advize what this is for.

Photo 2 shows a small mount behind the side plastic. Immediately to the right of it is a mount for the air box but im baffled what this one is for. Can anyone please advize.

The 3rd photo is a shot of when I got the bike, $500 bucks, probably a bit expensive in hindsight. I have sourced the barrel and head.




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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2010, 07:19:45 pm »
Top photo - brake light switch
second photo - Rectifier mount
3rd photo - $500 is pretty reasonable for that.
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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 07:24:06 pm »
First shot is the brake light switch the second shot is for a little black resistor of some kind it is about 20 mm square by about 5mm thick with 2 two spade connectors on it. There doesn't seem to be that many PE 400s on the market so if you want one you have to pay what they want! Good luck.

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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 07:57:55 pm »
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the second shot is for a little black resistor of some kind it is about 20 mm square by about 5mm thick with 2 two spade connectors on it.

No its not a resistor, its a rectifier and a rectifier is an arrangement of diodes, in the PE's case its just one because its just a half wave rectifier. Changes AC current to DC.
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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 08:04:29 pm »
Looks in not bad nick too the 1980 is a good model too with the bash plate $500 not expensive for it if I'd have found it I would have had to have it for that. ;)

ps don't chuck the original shocks they are hard to get just keep them you'll want to put some decent ones on the back I have a couple sets of ohlins I need to do up for my 400's.
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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 09:57:12 pm »
I had these made up by Works Performance in the states - Im hoping they will be ok

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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 10:08:35 pm »
Wow sweet I don't want to sound rude but do you mind me asking around how much did they cost I'd like to hear how they go becuase I have looked at works perfomance shocks a bit and contemplated buying some a few times thanks Michael. :)
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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 10:09:36 pm »
They look alright. How long are they?
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 07:12:42 am »
They cost me $501 Australian on my door step- A lot more than I was wanting to pay but I looked on Ebay for months and only rubbish came up so I bit the bullet.

I had them made exactly 1 inch longer than factory (I think they are 16.75 inch eye to eye from memory) as I want the bike to sit up like a later model bike. I have attached a photo I took with me on the bike and a 16.75 inch timber template in place for the shock. I am only 5.9" and as you can see I can still get both toes on the ground and thats without the shock compressed at all.

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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 09:38:12 am »
Bike being tall in the rear will have an effect on handling.
$500 is a bargain in my books.

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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 09:48:52 am »
if you are taking the rear up you may have to think about taking the front up a bit too I don't know if it would make a huge difference to your chain sitting on the slider block you know what is going to be hard is kick starting the big girl.

I can sit on all of mine with my feet flat on the ground on stock shocks so when I kickstart it I don't have to jump up or have it on the stand just leave my left foot on the ground and use the right foot you will really like it though the power is great fun and you have primary kick start you can start the bike in any gear.
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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 03:25:43 pm »
The rear tyre looks like its the wrong size and why it proabably sat so low. Should be a 5.10 or metric equivalent. i would have kept to 400-406mm but thats me. Just watch your chain buffer on the swingarm now because with the longer shocks your swingarm will be bent down more and the chain will rub on the buffler block a lot more and wear it out quicker. Also before you head off on your first ride, take the springs of the shocks, re-fit them with out the springs and have the correct rear tyre fitted. Then compress the rear end to make sure the tyre doesnt hit the air box and under the rear fender and also that the rear sprocket doesnt hit the muffler otherwise it will all end in tears and ive seen how nice your bike is comming along so it would be a shame to damage a new part. Do this at maximum and minimum wheel adjustment so you know its ok no matter where the axle is in the slot. And yes its not uncommon for to strike those clearance issues, infact i have original tests and in Trail & Trak the test riders found that with the standard shocks the sprocket would hit the muffler. This was on the 250 though with the 52T sprocker. With the smaller 400 sprocket it might not get so close. That also explains why a lot of mufflers are dented undeneath. A few of us did some testing a while back on the PE forum and really 417mm is the absolute maximum you should go because at that point you also create chain adjustment problems. 425mm is more so i would really check out your chain adjustment set up too which would have to be spot on. I reckon you can get away with it on the 400 as i know someone else who has 425mm shocks but 425mm on the 250 would be a no go with the larger sprocket, but its worth to check it all out first before riding it. As oldfart says, it will steer quicker but you may like that.
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Re: PE400 frame mounts
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2010, 04:56:18 pm »
Thanks
I knew it was a big decision to get the longer shocks as it would effect the steering and the bottom chain roller would wear out much faster due to the change in angle. I was not however aware it would effect my chain adjuster settings, hopefully I can get it sorted out.