OzVMX Forum
Clubroom => General Discussion => Topic started by: Graham on May 24, 2016, 11:38:48 AM
-
Thanks for the kind words Foxy, but alas you can come up with all sorts of stories to try and justify the divison in our QLD culbs, but facts dont lie , no sidecars, poss 1 evo , no classics , maybe go back to the qvmx web page and re-read the speel , might help jog the memory
-
As we both know Brian, its not the riders from either club thats the problem, it lies squarely with the club committees , so heres a challenge, to put things right , arrange for the QVMX to meet the BMCC committee, it needs to end , can you arrange this Brian. I will talk to BMCC and will confirm on here tonight 7 pm as to how I got on, can you also do the same
-
We are having a commitee meeting tomorrow night .
I will table the request then as you know one person cannot speak on behalf of others .
It would be nice for the slander to stop as we (riders ) commitee members do not need to waste
More time on he said BS.
-
It's funny in some respects. I don't think the two days of practice could have handled a lot more riders anyway and as for another class. Everyone would just get less track time.
Any mediation between the clubs needs to have a third party involved (MQ).
-
We are having a commitee meeting tomorrow night .
I will table the request then as you know one person cannot speak on behalf of others .
It would be nice for the slander to stop as we (riders ) commitee members do not need to waste
More time on he said BS.
Good work Brian sounds promising, so will expect your answer on here Thursday
-
It's funny in some respects. I don't think the two days of practice could have handled a lot more riders anyway and as for another class. Everyone would just get less track time.
Any mediation between the clubs needs to have a third party involved (MQ).
Good idea Kev, can you arrange the MQ
-
I dont even know whats going on between the two clubs but it sure would be great to have a separate pre 78/sidecar track.I ran my stock TS185 there on the weekend and found it to be fine but a track with jumps that could be made on the early bikes would be the best.Would pose a problem with watering/marshals etc or might have to run separate dates.
Its the best venue Ive ever riden,my only gripe was the 2 heats of modern bikes to one of VMX.Its great ladies can ride the track and I agree they should be allowed modern bikes.There not many places they can ride in such a manor.Juniors however have plenty of opportunity and places to ride so I recon they all should be on a vintage machines as its a vintage club.What happens when they turn 16 and they are no longer allowed to ride modern?They will either stop coming or become future members.Id much rather see a separate session for pre 78 machines if there was enough to run.All good but if your not having fun doing it its not worth doing.
-
A lot of kids can not wait to get on their mums or dads older bikes , pratice days are more for family .
Dad and mum can have a ride and not worry about their young ones going off as they have a chance to ride as well. The bottom track is great for pre 78 and back and can be used on pratice days . We put the smaller bikes down there as well so mum and dads are there to over see the young ones .
-
Kevin it seems neither you nor the members of your club are aware that on 5th May the General Manager of MQ invited both QVMX and BMCC, in writing, to a meeting hosted by MQ to resolve exactly these issues.
Brisbane MCC responded immediately signifying acceptance and welcoming the opportunity for such a meeting. To this date QVMX have not responded.
This is all a matter of record, and BMCC members have all been made privy to the relevant correspondence which has been going on since October 24th when BMCC first invited QVMX to an Interclub to be held on 22 May. The invitation was repeated in November, January and again more recently. BMCC also invited QVMX in writing on 26th November for the two committees to meet to discuss dates and other issues. This was also ignored.
QVMX received these invitations, evidenced by acknowledgement by your secretary.
BMCC and MQ have tried to resolve this situation, and as I said it's all on record.
-
All good Brian the BMCC committee are happy to meet with the QVMX group , so if you can confirm from your side on Thursday we only need a time and place. I think Kev's idea of having MQ to meditate would be good , what are your thoughts
-
I think MQ will step in so talk of committee meetings and deadlines are irrelevant.
-
Kevin it seems neither you nor the members of your club are aware that on 5th May the General Manager of MQ invited both QVMX and BMCC, in writing, to a meeting hosted by MQ to resolve exactly these issues.
Brisbane MCC responded immediately signifying acceptance and welcoming the opportunity for such a meeting. To this date QVMX have not responded.
This is all a matter of record, and BMCC members have all been made privy to the relevant correspondence which has been going on since October 24th when BMCC first invited QVMX to an Interclub to be held on 22 May. The invitation was repeated in November, January and again more recently. BMCC also invited QVMX in writing on 26th November for the two committees to meet to discuss dates and other issues. This was also ignored.
QVMX received these invitations, evidenced by acknowledgement by your secretary.
BMCC and MQ have tried to resolve this situation, and as I said it's all on record.
I don't think the QVMX club secretary posts on here. Also I am aware of the correspondence. It's time to stop the propaganda war.
-
I dont even know whats going on between the two clubs but it sure would be great to have a separate pre 78/sidecar track.I ran my stock TS185 there on the weekend and found it to be fine but a track with jumps that could be made on the early bikes would be the best.Would pose a problem with watering/marshals etc or might have to run separate dates.
Its the best venue Ive ever riden,my only gripe was the 2 heats of modern bikes to one of VMX.Its great ladies can ride the track and I agree they should be allowed modern bikes.There not many places they can ride in such a manor.Juniors however have plenty of opportunity and places to ride so I recon they all should be on a vintage machines as its a vintage club.What happens when they turn 16 and they are no longer allowed to ride modern?They will either stop coming or become future members.Id much rather see a separate session for pre 78 machines if there was enough to run.All good but if your not having fun doing it its not worth doing.
The other track is a Pre 78/Sidecar track. There were Pre78s that went on there in separate sessions. Clearly we need to have better communications. As for sidecars they choose to only ride with another club. As for juniors yes when they turn sixteen most will get a VMX bike. Where do you think the kids come from. They are with their parents who have VMX bikes.
-
Kevin it seems neither you nor the members of your club are aware that on 5th May the General Manager of MQ invited both QVMX and BMCC, in writing, to a meeting hosted by MQ to resolve exactly these issues.
Brisbane MCC responded immediately signifying acceptance and welcoming the opportunity for such a meeting. To this date QVMX have not responded.
This is all a matter of record, and BMCC members have all been made privy to the relevant correspondence which has been going on since October 24th when BMCC first invited QVMX to an Interclub to be held on 22 May. The invitation was repeated in November, January and again more recently. BMCC also invited QVMX in writing on 26th November for the two committees to meet to discuss dates and other issues. This was also ignored.
QVMX received these invitations, evidenced by acknowledgement by your secretary.
BMCC and MQ have tried to resolve this situation, and as I said it's all on record.
I don't think the QVMX club secretary posts on here. Also I am aware of the correspondence. It's time to stop the propaganda war.
Thanks for your imput Kev, but your choice of words are not helpful, Propaganda's meaning is to be biasded or of a misleading nature, the letter submitted above is neither, its FACT
-
Round and round we go as the bullshit continues...
I really hope MQ does get involved and kicks some arses! ... there's a growing number of pissed off vmx riders in Qld
-
The other track is a Pre 78/Sidecar track. There were Pre78s that went on there in separate sessions. Clearly we need to have better communications. As for sidecars they choose to only ride with another club. As for juniors yes when they turn sixteen most will get a VMX bike. Where do you think the kids come from. They are with their parents who have VMX bikes.
[/quote]
I know where kids come from,I have one of my own,and he will ride a VMX bike when he comes to a VMX club.
-
Round and round we go as the bullshit continues...
I really hope MQ does get involved and kicks some arses! ... there's a growing number of pissed off vmx riders in Qld
Why would the Qld riders be pissed of?
-
Round and round we go as the bullshit continues...
I really hope MQ does get involved and kicks some arses! ... there's a growing number of pissed off vmx riders in Qld
Why would the Qld riders be pissed of?
If you were one you would know..
-
For what it's worth.....
As a newbie to the sport who has ridden with both clubs this year I'll say both have been welcoming and helpful, and put in a lot of work to make it all happen, for which I am very appreciative. With three venues managed by the two clubs I can hang out with blokes my age and talk about the crap I want to talk about with nary a fully sick flat billed cap in sight. We have it pretty good!
So as a Qld rider, I'm not pissed off. Just appreciative yet confused.
-
All good Brian the BMCC committee are happy to meet with the QVMX group , so if you can confirm from your side on Thursday we only need a time and place. I think Kev's idea of having MQ to meditate would be good , what are your thoughts
I would like to know if the meeting took place and what was the outcome, did all differences get settled? I think all benefit when there is co-operation and cohesion between all clubs and members.
I don't know the full story behind the animosity, but I hope that it is not driven by personalities instead of VMX related issues.
Kevin
-
Kevin why not ask the involved parties, you know they are the only ones who can give you the answer.
I can give you the answer on behalf of Brisbane MCC, the General Manager of MQ could be asked the situation from his viewpoint, and you could approach your own club president for his standpoint.
-
Kevin why not ask the involved parties, you know they are the only ones who can give you the answer.
I can give you the answer on behalf of Brisbane MCC, the General Manager of MQ could be asked the situation from his viewpoint, and you could approach your own club president for his standpoint.
Col that is what I am doing, albeit publicly on this forum. I am a member of one of the clubs so I am interested in what may or may not affect me. The fact is I just don't know or currently understand what the issues are and what is driving the problem. I think airing the problem publicly in the light is a great disinfectant and if all parties are representing their members it should be done in a open forum and not behind closed doors. If people are being mis-represented or poorly governed surely the members need to know so they can ultimately have their say via their votes. I would love to know what the issue/issues are and what is the MA view of it. Surely the MA being our sports governing body the final say is with them over any club/clubs disputes.
What I can see is that you and BMCC seem to be open and inclusive in this dispute and I don't think a " No Response " from QVMX is helpful. Again it should all be about the betterment of the sport and all clubs and their members. This post is not a personal attack on anyone or any club just a private response to comments made on this forum that allude to issues I dont know the details of.
Kevin
-
Kevin, I agree and don't see your comments as a personal attack. I am prepared to make relevant correspondence available to you, although you indicated you had already seen it, but obviously will not make it available on a public forum.
I also have responded to you in public in the interests of transparency, however I think I have said all that is needed.
-
Fair enough Col, I wish the other side or MA would comment on this and hopefully end the nonsense.
Kevin
-
Hi Kev,
I believe this is an MQ matter not an MA matter and it is doubtfull either body monitors this forum, so you cannot expect a public comment from them ..
-
You guys do realize that KTMaico is not Kevin Mortimer...
-
I have decided that this thread is not in the spirit of the OzVMX forum. We've been down this sort of road before and members made it clear they did not wish to see various dirty laundry aired here. If there is some kind of debate needed between these two clubs, then sort it out yourselves. if you want it to be public, one or both of you can set up your own forum (say a page on Facebook) where you can manage what is said, and manage the visibility as needed. OzVMX forum is NOT a club administration forum.
Thread closed.